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Do you think this will go on much longer?
Poll: The official I voted/election results thread
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Do you think this will go on much longer?
Very possibly. Remember ukip got a large vote, as did labour, who are very right winged as well, despite what dome of their voters claim.
It's hilarious when in this and other threads people are saying should stay left or move from left to central. They are plainly to the right.
The only left party that did well was SNP and they are just left of central.
Pretty much everyone voted right, it's just how far.
Based of 2015 manifestos
Just a shame theirs no one in the purple box, which is where I would like to see a party. Very liberal but Wright wing economically.
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Soldato
"I didn't vote for Cameron because of Maggie Thatcher" brigade grind my gears.
Man of Honour
You mean the entire population of Liverpool and Manchester?
Caporegime
Would imagine so
37% is hardly the whole country.
True, but the whole 'OcUK is a Toff stronghold' that some people seem to have a view on, is only very similar to the country as a whole. I seem to recall there being plenty of posts about how OcUK isn't a very good indicator of the countries voting intention, when in fact it's proven to not be too far wide of the mark when it comes to the Conservatives.
37% Vs 39.62%.
Soldato
Chuka won't get much support because he is bald. In the UK and US, a bald leader has never beaten a fully folicled candidate in general election.
Soldato
This isn't exactly correct.
A political party has an agenda, goals, intentions & belief systems in some cases. A supporter of proponent of this political entity at least in principle supports aspects of this. This on the other hand is not true of skin colour or national identity, not all people identify with their home nation.
Yes it's irrational, but not comparable.
Soldato
And where I live. Asked my Wifes parents why they were against the Tories, the answer was because of the miners strikes and sending the army in etc.. Blah blah blah stuck in the past.
I guess you're right, maybe hating somebody for supporting another football team may be a better comparison /shrug.
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The hate for the Tories runs deep in the industrial heartlands of Wales, the midlands and the north. People have long memories and the wounds caused to families all over the country by Thatcher are still raw.
We haven't seen anything like it in recent memory, except maybe the post 2008 housing crash which is why we have such anti-banker sentiment throughout this country. I suppose if you lose everything you don't easily forget it and I think people under estimate the power of perceived injustice.
Unfortunately Labour are in a catch 22, both because of the change in the overall demographic within the country and the change from industry to services.
If they go left, the will cause a lot of the new upper-working-class (those who tend to think they are middle class) to be wary of voting for them. If they go any further right they basically become Conservatives option 2 and cease to be relevant in opposition.
I think they are best served with some principle politics and they should draw a line in the sand. If they do move I would say a lean to the left and down a bit, but still to the right of the centre line.
We haven't seen anything like it in recent memory, except maybe the post 2008 housing crash which is why we have such anti-banker sentiment throughout this country. I suppose if you lose everything you don't easily forget it and I think people under estimate the power of perceived injustice.
Unfortunately Labour are in a catch 22, both because of the change in the overall demographic within the country and the change from industry to services.
If they go left, the will cause a lot of the new upper-working-class (those who tend to think they are middle class) to be wary of voting for them. If they go any further right they basically become Conservatives option 2 and cease to be relevant in opposition.
I think they are best served with some principle politics and they should draw a line in the sand. If they do move I would say a lean to the left and down a bit, but still to the right of the centre line.
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Not really, not when 37% voted Toff but that's a different story.
I'm not pro Labor either, doesn't matter who you vote for, you get shafted either way.
Caporegime
If OcUK are pro toff, as per this poll, then so are the country. 37% vs 39.64% isn't far off.
Can't disagree with that one.
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Caporegime
Too late to have concerns. The country knew what the Tories were like when they were voted it, we've brought it on ourselves.