Poll: The official I voted/election results thread
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If its not going to happen , what can you see happening then?
What party commands a majority in the house within a coalition/alliance?
Labour and SNP will
Con and Libdems , DUP , UKIP and Independents will not - Only added the parties which haven't ruled a Con alliance out
Well yeah if they pay taxes sure but people who move because they don't like the country and no longer pay in, screw them.
In a constituency where the result won't be in doubt here unfortunately so probably won't waste my time
Labour will win here easily unfortunately, the Lib Dems have been pleading to folks to vote tactically as it was very close last time though that's when they had some mistaken credibility for a short period and also locally they have taken what could only be described as the "worst publicity imaginable" recently
Labour will win here easily unfortunately, the Lib Dems have been pleading to folks to vote tactically as it was very close last time though that's when they had some mistaken credibility for a short period and also locally they have taken what could only be described as the "worst publicity imaginable" recently
If predictions are accurate then only the following combinations will give the 322 seats needed for a majority:
- Labour + LibDem + SNP (344)
- Labour + SNP + PC + Green (322)
- Labour + SNP + PC + Green + SDLP (325)
- Tory + Labour (547)
1-3 are out because Miliband has said Labour will not form a coalition with the SNP (he's trying to look strong by saying it, but he has no choice, it would be suicide for Labour both in England and Scotland).
4 is laughable.
The only somewhat viable option seems to be a minority Labour + LibDem coalition (293) which would just outnumber Tory + DUP + UKIP (290) and would see the SNP either vote with them or abstain (except for Trident, but that would have Tory backing anyway).
Of course if nobody can form a government we would see a second election, which would strengthen the Tories due to many voters who defected to UKIP returning after seeing UKIP fail to meet their expectations in the first election, though of course this would also see some Labour defectors return from Green/SNP, it's way too early to guess how a second election would pan out.
Because a politician told you it wouldn't ?
No because it would be political suicide for Labour to attempt that, Miliband would end his career and any hope of Labour getting re-elected for at least a decade or more, in England Labour would be seen as traitors and blacklisted by voters (we're talking "I'll never vote tory because of Thatcher" levels of hatred) and in Scotland they will have validated the SNP's "if you want Labour then vote for us and get Labour plus extra toys" campaigning which means no mentally stable Scot will ever vote Labour again.
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Completely disagree. You shouldn't vote only for the party which will benefit you personally. That's completely selfish. Being brutally honest, I also think it's a bad message to send your kids.
All voting selfishly does is encourage the parties to make promises which are good for certain individuals (in target demographics) but bad for the country.
Vote for the whole of society, not just yourself!
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I just wish someday the voting system will change
What about a Conservative+SNP coalition ubers? Do those numbers add up?
Someone that understands.
Tbh it's not surprising people get confused. The whole voting system needs an overhaul.
Ah I was trying to get to that yep i agree with all of this
agree with the voting system needs reform i quite like the vote for your 1st , 2nd , 3rd choice I believe that is AV + and of-course PR would be welcome
They would, but both parties have explicitly ruled out working with each other and the SNP have said they would never vote for a Tory queen's speech.
/Facepalm
Thanks Scorza, I completely forgot about that option because it sounds so crazy, but when you think about it a deal with Satan to keep Scotland off hells radar is the sort of thing the SNP could sell to it's voters, especially if it delivered devo-max and saw Trident moved.
Con + SNP is estimated at 332, a clear majority.
What did they say exactly? Because I think those two parties are the least trustworthy e.g. a lot of people think David Cameron is protecting child tax credits because he said so in the debate, what he actually said was that he "didn't want to" cut them. Very different statement.