***The Official LG Nexus 4 Thread***
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erm hd screen, bigger screen, not pentile screen(not a fan of it on s3), 2gb of ram is a nice upgrade, quad core is a nice upgrade, build quality is good and each review actually agrees with it but again design/feel of the phone is a personal preference
but no way in my eyes is one s worth that much(if you compare to n4 before n4 yes i would have agreed about it being a bargain) we could argue but we have different views obviously so lets just leave it
You seem to miss the part "personal preference" for the screen.......again
- So what if it is HD? There is more to a screen that just what res. it has. For the people that like proper blacks, good viewing angles, saturated colours, then a HD screen will hold hardly any value to them
- not everyone likes a bigger screen. I do want a bigger screen myself, but you got to look outside the box rather than just applying what you think to everyone else. For a lot of people the one X, GS 3 is too big and so that is why many went for the one S at the time instead
- If anything the GPU is more of an upgrade than having an additional 2 cores, linked plenty of articles here a few months ago, which explained why quad core is pointless for android at the minute......
Well if you look at it like that, then you could say that the GS 3, one x, X+, XL, iphone 5 etc. are most certainly not worth that much and anyone who buys them are out of their minds.
I don't see how this is an argument.....simply a discussion, but you can't just say that certain areas are better without a doubt when that really isn't the case.
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Again, there is more to smartphones etc. than just what it says on the spec sheet......
To which anybody can respond with their opinion on AMOLED displays:
No offence Nexus18, I don't disagree with all your points, but don't you get bored of endlessly pimping the One S?
- Oversaturated colours
- PenTile is frankly hideous on a display with a low pixel density.
- Not everyone likes a smaller display.
No offence Nexus18, I don't disagree with all your points, but don't you get bored of endlessly pimping the One S?
You seem to miss the part "personal preference" for the screen.......again
- So what if it is HD? There is more to a screen that just what res. it has. For the people that like proper blacks, good viewing angles, saturated colours, then a HD screen will hold hardly any value to them
pentile + med resolution screen really doesn't cut it these days
- not everyone likes a bigger screen. I do want a bigger screen myself, but you got to look outside the box rather than just applying what you think to everyone else. For a lot of people the one X, GS 3 is too big and so that is why many went for the one S at the time instead
which is exactly what i said in my 2nd post
- If anything the GPU is more of an upgrade than having an additional 2 cores, linked plenty of articles here a few months ago, which explained why quad core is pointless for android at the minute......
thats the thing with me and a lot of people you buy a phone that will last you a year at least
Well if you look at it like that, then you could say that the GS 3, one x, X+, XL, iphone 5 etc. are most certainly not worth that much and anyone who buys them are out of their minds.
again a phone is worth as much as a person buying it is willing to pay for it
I don't see how this is an argument.....simply a discussion, but you can't just say that certain areas are better without a doubt when that really isn't the case.
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Again, there is more to smartphones etc. than just what it says on the spec sheet......
spec sheet is important and having played with both one s and n4 i simply state what i prefer and why i prefer it
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And as I have said many times before to people who think that, fair enough, when recommending phones that have IPS and SAMOLED, I never say that one is better than the other but simply list advantages and disadvantages like the following (in the case of the one S VS nexus 4)
Hmm
I simply said to dampcat, great bargain for the S and no more than that and then grudas came along and said "is it really? especially when the nexus 4 costs the same and is twice as good as the S in every area", which is clearly not the case so I answered his question and listed reasons as to how the nexus 4 isn't twice as good in everything (did I say the S was the better phone? No. Did I say the nexus 4 was a crap phone in comparison? No. I simply listed points explaining that there is more than 1 side to the story.
Please do explain how that is "endlessly pimping the one S"? I haven't recommend the one S for quite a while now (unless people want a smaller phone or are on a budget) as there are better phones overall out there now like the note II, one XL etc. Also, I have done the same thing as above with the gS 3, GS 2 and one X etc. in this thread many times before, yet no complaints on that?
@grudas
Yes IMO the GS 2 is far too saturated and does give the image a rather cheap cartoonish/toy look overall. The one S, GS 3 are nowhere as saturated as it (neither is the GN, but it is a bit too dull) and yes the GS 2 whites are poor as well as the GS 3 whites IMO. The one s has the best whites for a SAMOLED screen but obviously still pales in comparison to the LCD screens, much like the blacks do for LCD compared to SAMOLED.
I only just seen that post about size, that point was in reference to "bigger screen"
Even dual core isn't fully utilised properly (the articles were covering mulit-core tech. in general), sure look a the razr i, single core intel chip (has hyper threading though) and the performance of it is great. There won't be anything that will fully utilise the power of the one S, one X, GS 3 etc. and even the gS 2 for another 2 years at least. Only thing, which might push it will be games. The GS 2 is 2 years old now, isn't it? And yet it is keeping up with all these new phones and will be even closer to their performance once it gets JB in January.
Well that wasn't the impression that I got with this statement
And some other comments.
I agree that the nexus 4 is definitely great bang for buck and certainly is a game changer but as you have got at there, for some people, it might be worth paying more in order to acquire a phone that has something which they would rather have, be it screen, camera, battery life, OS etc.
I have no objections to your preference or anyone's preference for that matter, but more so the way that what you think (and others) is fact and therefore must mean that it applies to everyone else, well that is just how it comes across to me anyway. You need to use "IMO" more often
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OK guys, there's been a lot of shipping talk and comparisons with other handsets etc (
), so i'll ask something more on topic...
I'm after a rom for the N4. I'd stay on stock but for a few things. I like the clock to be in the centre, i like a circle battery mod and prefer the old toggles on pull down.
Does such a rom exist, or can the stock rom be modded (am already rooted and CWM'd)
), so i'll ask something more on topic...I'm after a rom for the N4. I'd stay on stock but for a few things. I like the clock to be in the centre, i like a circle battery mod and prefer the old toggles on pull down.
Does such a rom exist, or can the stock rom be modded (am already rooted and CWM'd)
Going back to the chap who said they are cheap in Dubai - are they cheaper than the UK? Would a handset from Dubai work fine in the UK?
Mum and Dad are due over there end of next month, wonder if its worth getting them to pick me one up if they still aren't available over here.
Mum and Dad are due over there end of next month, wonder if its worth getting them to pick me one up if they still aren't available over here.
IMO 'Paranoid Android' is a great ROM for Nexus devices - lots of custom options which include the things you want and much, much more.
Here mine on the Galaxy Nexus:
Mine's in' Phablet mode' - but you can have it phone mode if you so wish.
Agreed, it is getting a bit tiresome now tbh.
You prefer your One S and you have listed your reasons many, many, MANY, times. I think most people in the thread get it now.
Just out of curiosity, what happens to apps that have the menu button icon? *I see you have somehow enabled an extra menu button whereas stock only has 3 buttons these days. Does your ROM/setting disable them in newer apps or do you just end up with duplicate buttons?
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IMO 'Paranoid Android' is a great ROM for Nexus devices - lots of custom options which include the things you want and much, much more.
Here mine on the Galaxy Nexus:
Mine's in' Phablet mode' - but you can have it phone mode if you so wish.
Thanks for that.... will have a look into it later.
Need to find out if there are any bugs etc as it will be a 'daily driver'
Apps stay the same - on most apps instead of stretching for that high 3-dot menu button you can just press the on the nav bar.
It's easy to turn off the menu button in the PA settings.
No probs - Mattey1 is running this ROM on his N4, he may pop in and let you know if there any bugs or not.
*sigh*
Once again........
That was not the point of my post.
All I said was "great bargain" to dampcat, did I mention anything about me preferring it to the nexus 4, saying it was better or whatever? No. Grudas came in saying "is it a bargain really? especially when the nexus 4 costs the same and is twice as good as the S in every area" in which my second post was explaining why it was a bargain and how the N4 isn't twice as good in every area, am I not allowed to answer his question and state why I disagree with that statement he made?
The way some of you lot are making it out, it sounds like I am just coming in posting comparison to the S all the time just for the sake of it, which most certainly isn't the case, I have actually probably done more Nexus 4 VS GS 3, note II comparisons than the one S VS nexus 4 in this thread because people are asking, which phone to get between them.
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DOnt just leave it, im trying to choose between them
Get the N4. There, I made your mind up for you.
Fair enough, but in general all you seem to be doing (repeatedly) in the thread is comparing and criticising the N4 compared to xxx phone. A page doesn't go by without such a comparison either with regards to the loudspeaker, camera, battery life, perceived build quality or the SAMOLED/LCD comparisons you keep on going on about. I think most people can read back a bit in the thread to find the same info. Read back a few of your posts, if you think I am exaggerating.
Anyway, it's not my thread, so feel free to post what you wish. But, seeing as you have no interest in buying the phone, the reviews and user experiences of the phone are spread all ver the thread. i am not sure what your constant comparison/criticisms add (especially as you don't even own the phone)?
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Criticising?
Please show me my posts where I have been saying anything out of the ordinary for the N4 that isn't actually true, people are experiencing battery drain (just look at this thread and XDA, loads of threads on poor battery life, however, as I have pointed out many times it is just a problem with software and will be sorted and once it is, it will be one of the best phones for battery life), same for camera etc. At first going by user's opinions and some expert reviews the audio via loudspeaker didn't sound good but gsmarena's test has shown that it is perfectly good, as good as the GS 3 and one S, thus I now say "audio is more or less the same"
The phone has its strengths and weaknesses just like every phone and I point them out when people ask something like "how does this phone compare to xxxx", again, nowhere do I say the N4 is crap or criticise it. No point saying something is better when it isn't i.e. the camera compared to the GS 3 etc.
Pretty much every review, user opinion (from non fanboys) would agree and again I don't say if a screen is better (unless it really is better overall), I list the advantages and disadvantages and let the person decide what they want instead of just the majority of people here saying "nexus 4 screen washed out, GS 3 etc. screen much better or SAMOLED over saturated with a horrible fuzzy look, nexus 4 miles better".
I would like to think that my posts are more helpful than the majority of standard replies you get in every suggestion thread etc. which is usually answers like "GS 3 or n4, end of" even if the phone doesn't suit the users requirements. How about having some decent replies, which state why the phone is better in a certain area or/and how it is better rather than just a one line answer? And from what I can gather the people asking for advice seem to appreciate my advice. I know that I would rather have a post like mine than the standard one liner, which is of no use IMO.
Since when did you have to own the phones in order to be able to recommend or comment on the pros and cons? I get to have a good long play with the majority of devices and read pretty much every review and user opinion there is on the devices, which I am interested in, thus I think it is safe to say you can gather a damn good idea as to what the phone will be like without having to own one yourself.
We have 247 pages of posts and so anyone who wants to know something are going to have a hard time finding info. on how the phone compares to other phones, although they should be creating a new thread or searching for a previous thread on the subject.
I might not have any interest in buying the phone (I was very close to buying one when it first came out and was most likely going to get one if the S didn't get JB by the end of this year), but I still have a lot of interest in the phone itself and what people think.
And once again, the only time I comment on the pro, cons, screen or whatever is when it is brought up by someone else. Are we not allowed to make an observation, comment on what someone else has posted or does that just apply to me? I don't just come in and post a comparison for the sake of it
Don't worry though, I won't bother posting in here again regarding comparisons, since it seems that people don't like any form of "negative" comments being made about the nexus 4 or/and because they come from me.
Please show me my posts where I have been saying anything out of the ordinary for the N4 that isn't actually true, people are experiencing battery drain (just look at this thread and XDA, loads of threads on poor battery life, however, as I have pointed out many times it is just a problem with software and will be sorted and once it is, it will be one of the best phones for battery life), same for camera etc. At first going by user's opinions and some expert reviews the audio via loudspeaker didn't sound good but gsmarena's test has shown that it is perfectly good, as good as the GS 3 and one S, thus I now say "audio is more or less the same"
The phone has its strengths and weaknesses just like every phone and I point them out when people ask something like "how does this phone compare to xxxx", again, nowhere do I say the N4 is crap or criticise it. No point saying something is better when it isn't i.e. the camera compared to the GS 3 etc.
Pretty much every review, user opinion (from non fanboys) would agree and again I don't say if a screen is better (unless it really is better overall), I list the advantages and disadvantages and let the person decide what they want instead of just the majority of people here saying "nexus 4 screen washed out, GS 3 etc. screen much better or SAMOLED over saturated with a horrible fuzzy look, nexus 4 miles better".
I would like to think that my posts are more helpful than the majority of standard replies you get in every suggestion thread etc. which is usually answers like "GS 3 or n4, end of" even if the phone doesn't suit the users requirements. How about having some decent replies, which state why the phone is better in a certain area or/and how it is better rather than just a one line answer? And from what I can gather the people asking for advice seem to appreciate my advice. I know that I would rather have a post like mine than the standard one liner, which is of no use IMO.
Since when did you have to own the phones in order to be able to recommend or comment on the pros and cons? I get to have a good long play with the majority of devices and read pretty much every review and user opinion there is on the devices, which I am interested in, thus I think it is safe to say you can gather a damn good idea as to what the phone will be like without having to own one yourself.
We have 247 pages of posts and so anyone who wants to know something are going to have a hard time finding info. on how the phone compares to other phones, although they should be creating a new thread or searching for a previous thread on the subject.
I might not have any interest in buying the phone (I was very close to buying one when it first came out and was most likely going to get one if the S didn't get JB by the end of this year), but I still have a lot of interest in the phone itself and what people think.
And once again, the only time I comment on the pro, cons, screen or whatever is when it is brought up by someone else. Are we not allowed to make an observation, comment on what someone else has posted or does that just apply to me? I don't just come in and post a comparison for the sake of it
Don't worry though, I won't bother posting in here again regarding comparisons, since it seems that people don't like any form of "negative" comments being made about the nexus 4 or/and because they come from me.
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Is there no timer mode for the Nexus 4 camera? Had it for a month now and just realised I couldn't set the camera to wait 2-10 seconds before snapping the photo....
anyone?
Not having a go here, but do you realise how many people Nexus has helped out with his information. It isn't like he is spouting fanboy crap - he's repeating facts that appear to be all over the internet.
Personally I've always found his posts helpful and worth reading.
Sure, I'm not having a go either, nor calling anyone a fanboy. Just merely stating that his comments are getting repetitive.
Anyway, carry on as normal!!
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