*** The Official Microsoft Surface Thread ***

I need to buy a micro sd card for my surface 2.

I've got the 32Gb surface 2 currently.

What's the largest micro sd card the surface 2 will support ? 128Gb ???

Any recommend which micro sd card to go for ??

Thanks
 
It should support any, its technically upto 64gb as that was all that was out at the time, the 128gb is sold out atm and only released a few days ago. And seemingly at an offer price of £85 do expect that to double when it comes back in stock. Not guaranteed to work, but it should.
 
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It should support any, its technically upto 64gb as that was all that was out at the time, the 128gb is sold out atm and only released a few days ago. And seemingly at an offer price of £85 do expect that to double when it comes back in stock. Not guaranteed to work, but it should.
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Thanks for info, I thought 128gb micro as had been out for a while.

"64gb micro sd class 10 for £34"

That a good price ??
 
What are the new model cycles with the Surface?

The Surface 2 was released at the end of Oct 2013 so would it be reasonable to assume the 3 will be out around that time this year?
 
Should see a refresh same time, but IMO, that depends on a few factors, Surface 3 Pro needs Broadwell, and any potential delay with that could affect Surface 3 Pro, they'd be silly to do another Haswell one.

Surface 3 RT (Depends if they kill off RT really) depends what they're doing, will it be the new Tegra (Please God No) or do they go elsewhere etc?

Till then, we don't know anything :p
 
They aren't going to kill it off, it will almost certainly have the NVIDIA k1. All the leaked documentation, shows they aren't killing it off, and that RT and wp will be rolled into one OS for phones and tablets same as ios/android and will use the windows8 store.

Be nice if they had an atom version as well, but that depends when the new one is out as well.
 
I know this will make people shout at me but I actually think RT (or it's derivatives) are actually the future. The old Windows x86 code can only be updated for so long and the ridiculous backwards compatability requirement for Win32 is stopping any real OS innovation.

I suspect at some point we'll have the successor to RT as the mainstream OS, robust and modern with minimal baggage with some kind of VM/emulation/" Win32 Sku" of Windows for people wedded to old style win32 "x86" apps. there's no reason RT can't run on Intel as well as ARM and it's a fresh start for a 20 year old OS. There's no technical reason why RT couldn't run Windowed Apps and a desktop type environment but with all the advantages a modern OS brings.

I fully expect to be toasted in the next 40seconds. :D
 
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They aren't going to kill it off, it will almost certainly have the NVIDIA k1. All the leaked documentation, shows they aren't killing it off, and that RT and wp will be rolled into one OS for phones and tablets same as ios/android and will use the windows8 store.

Be nice if they had an atom version as well, but that depends when the new one is out as well.
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They should stop with Nvidia's SOC's.
 
Despite all the moaning, the tegra 4 actually holds it own. The tegra3 was pretty rubbish. But things change, but people haven't. All the benchmarks I've seen have the tegra4 and s800 pretty level. Some one wins marginally, and some the other wins marginally. Its certainly not the doom and gloom that was paraded about before release.

I also wonder if its a way to keep Nokia happy and now to keep them serrated, one uses one sock, the other uses the other as a differentiator.

The k1 is also looking handy, seeing as the benchmarks are for dual core rather than quad. And is still 25% faster than the 800 and 12% faster than the 805 which are all quad cores.
That's the other issue that muddies the water, they're about 6 months apart on release and tend to leapfrog each other and Qualcomm release far more revisions.
 
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Look at 3D Mark figures of the S800 on RT against Tegra 4 on RT, The S800 has a mighty win (~16.9K to ~13.2K, and to me that's a viable benchmark, rather than some obscure ones of no interest)

I'd take an S800 over a Tegra 4 any day of the week.
 
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As a student, I can get an Original Surface Pro (64Gb) with a touch cover and pen for £395. I want something to Browse, run Microsoft office and an SPSS like application simultaneously but, it also has to be portable. Is this the best device for me?
 
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As a student, I can get an Original Surface Pro (64Gb) with a touch cover and pen for £395. I want something to Browse, run Microsoft office and an SPSS like application simultaneously but, it also has to be portable. Is this the best device for me?
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I couldn't argue with a surface pro and touch cover for 395!
 
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Look at 3D Mark figures of the S800 on RT against Tegra 4 on RT, The S800 has a mighty win (~16.9K to ~13.2K, and to me that's a viable benchmark, rather than some obscure ones of no interest)

I'd take an S800 over a Tegra 4 any day of the week.
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Yes it does win, but not by much and hardly with dissing it. especially when as I say they are on different cycles and tegra 4 came out earlier than s800. Meaning the s800 should be better as its a newer soc.

See here for a decent comparison.
http://tabshowdown.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/apple-a7-vs-nvidia-tegra-4.html

The verdict of this comparison is that, while pretty much all of the current flagship SoCs are pretty close in terms of CPU power, the Tegra 4 falters slightly when the GPU is put to the test. The Apple A7 does very well on the GPU side, but it's just slightly outperformed by the Adreno 330 GPU on the Snapdragon 800. But really, they're all so close it's hard to pick one as a definite winner. You could call the Snapdragon 800 the overall inner, but I say it's too close to call.
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And certainly nothing to write of a totally new soc, architecture. When it absolutely trounces even the future 805.
 
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The 3DMark one is over 20% different.
And Tegra 4 has some glaring issues ;

he biggest limitation of the Tegra 4's GeForce GPU is that it only supports OpenGL ES 2.0. Right now, this isn't really a problem, as game developers haven't yet migrated to OpenGL ES 3.0 for their games, but that practically destroys the future-proofing of the Tegra 4.
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Peak theoretical compute power puts the Tegra 4 behind the A7, but the Tegra 4 is still close enough to the A7 to call it competitive. However, be aware that, while the A7's unified shader architecture allows it to have its peak 115.2 GFLOPS performance available to it in any situation (the same applies to the Adreno 330), the story is quite different with the Tegra 4. The discrete pixel shader architecture means that the GPU's peak 96.8 GFLOPS can only be achieved when the mix of pixel and vertex shader requests matches the ratio between pixel and vertex shader hardware (2:1), so most of the time the GPU achieves less than 96.8 GFLOPS.
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Also, they're using the 450MHZ results for S800, not the 550MHZ ones (Which will change results in the favour of S8 in GPU stuff)
 
Future proofing? Since when did it need to be future proofed it'll be dead and forgotten about in two years time, just like the s800. Especially as the next round of arm SOCs are 64bit.
 
Imp two years is about right for tablets. Unlike the pc market which has been stable for a long time and can run in anything. Tablet market isn't the same. IPad 2 was crape after several updates to the OS and the Socks are advancing so fast. I just dont think you can buy a tablet and expect it to be a long term investment (unless you dint update the O's or the apps, AMD hope the olds are don't get broken) like the metrotube app was broken due to change on youtube. so requires an update.

Not relevant to the soc question. But thought I would expand anyway.
 
Anyone know when the power cover might see the light of day in the UK? The surface pro is amazing but the battery life is average at best. Would love to get the pro 2 but can't justify paying £500 more.

Also, anyone point me to the cable that they're using to connect the surface to their monitors?

Cheers
 
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