*** The Official Nintendo Switch 2 ***

I kind of wonder what is the value of brining the Masterchief Collection to the switch? It's been about long enough I don't know if it's worth full price, I wonder if they can do something to it to add more to it.

My one fear of the switch 2 is that they just port games to it without adding value to it and in a couple of years we get the old "we are not supporting the switch because x didn't sell"
 
Lots of low qualiy textures, jaggies and overall a soft looking image.
Thats from the official video on nintendo youtube channel so want to be proved wrong with a high quality video but right now I dont see how it looks much better then what the current switch can handle.

It's using an old tegra chip, with graphics based on Nvidia ampere , apparently the graphics will be on par with an Xbox 1 / ps4
 
People are happy enough to write off battery life on some of the handheld consoles like Steam Deck, ROG Ally or Legion Go but Nintendo customer's won't be - they need to strike a balance between performance and endurance as they always tend to have.
Hopefully the larger sized device means they've been able to squeeze in some extra battery capacity; it would be good if it had the endurance the OLED model had (or the Original "upgrade") rather than of the original 2017 launch model.
 
My point above isn’t referencing steam decks etc. it’s a reference to what I have in my hand, a phone.

Sure the GPU in the new switch is likely to be faster than what I have in my phone but it will not be that much faster and also the battery will be far larger.
 
I kind of wonder what is the value of brining the Masterchief Collection to the switch? It's been about long enough I don't know if it's worth full price, I wonder if they can do something to it to add more to it.

My one fear of the switch 2 is that they just port games to it without adding value to it and in a couple of years we get the old "we are not supporting the switch because x didn't sell"
Well I've had Nintendo consoles more than others. Last other console was a PS3. So others including me might be tempted as I never played Halo games.
 
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That’s not exactly a stretching target in a handheld these days.

The chip is not a modern chip, mostly built on years old technology with more modern bits attached.

The chip is a custom chip, with a mix of ampere Lovelace architecture (apparently). It's reported that dlss3 might be compatible with switch 2, I think the memory bandwidth and arm clock cores are what will hold the chip back, so I'd expect rtx3050/60 ISH performance, the switch will probably only be able to do 1080p convincingly relying on upscalers when attached to the telly.
 
People are happy enough to write off battery life on some of the handheld consoles like Steam Deck, ROG Ally or Legion Go but Nintendo customer's won't be - they need to strike a balance between performance and endurance as they always tend to have.
Hopefully the larger sized device means they've been able to squeeze in some extra battery capacity; it would be good if it had the endurance the OLED model had (or the Original "upgrade") rather than of the original 2017 launch model.

I'm just hoping for a larger perf difference between modes. The docked Switch 1's performance was too close to handheld; in Docked mode battery drain matters nothing, so they should be pushing max performance in docked mode and max battery in handheld.

For example if Nintendo wants to run 5w TDP in Handheld that's fine, but give us 25w TDP in docked so the machine runs at max clocks.

The Switch 1 gains double performance when you manually overclock it, literally breath of the wild goes from 30fps to 60fps in docked mode after you manually overclock it. All that performance Nintendo could have given docked users but they didn't. Nintendo can't afford to give up all that performance again
 
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They probably didn't want to take away from hand held performance by showing what the docked Switch was capable of.
 
Did anyone think switch 2 is very similar to the steam deck etc pc portable gaming devices. I mean nintendo have removed their colour from the joypads so it ends up looking very similar to my untrained eye.

I think it would struggle selling past £350 as it would appear they are aiming at maybe 1080p resolutions. I believe they are losing ground to the portable pc gaming devices as we can emulate etc on them.

Ever since the original switch was £279 at release yet a ps4 or xbox was cheaper at that time i have always struggled with why would i pay more for a less powerful system. I did originally think they would drop to £200 but they never did afaik.

I am not a nintendo fan, not since snes days of mario kart / new super mario. Well i did briefly have a game cube but it was short lived.
 
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Did anyone think switch 2 is very similar to the steam deck etc pc portable gaming devices. I mean nintendo have removed their colour from the joypads so it ends up looking very similar to my untrained eye.

I think it would struggle selling past £350 as it would appear they are aiming at maybe 1080p resolutions. I believe they are losing ground to the portable pc gaming devices as we can emulate etc on them.

Ever since the original switch was £279 at release yet a ps4 or xbox was cheaper at that time i have always struggled with why would i pay more for a less powerful system. I did originally think they would drop to £200 but they never did afaik.

I am not a nintendo fan, not since snes days of mario kart / new super mario. Well i did briefly have a game cube but it was short lived.
Nintendo has shown with the Switch that if its a decent system with a good USP and a great games library people will buy it. The specs don't determine a systems appeal it's what it offers in terms of games and usability.

Even at £350 the Switch 2 according to the leaked specs is a very capable machine so do not see there being an issue shifting units.

As for the console design/look it's still got bright colours separating it from others that look similar plus it's a thinner unit.
 
I believe they are losing ground to the portable pc gaming devices as we can emulate etc on them.

How are we defining 'losing ground' here?

The Switch is still selling in the realms of several million units per quarter and it's nearly eight years old, the only comparative stats I can see for the SteamDeck as an example, are in the low millions per year. For a device that's in its prime period.

Unless Nintendo absolutely drop the ball and price it stupidly, Switch 2 sales will make the rest of the current handheld/hybrid market look insignificant.
 
How are we defining 'losing ground' here?

The Switch is still selling in the realms of several million units per quarter and it's nearly eight years old, the only comparative stats I can see for the SteamDeck as an example, are in the low millions per year. For a device that's in its prime period.

Unless Nintendo absolutely drop the ball and price it stupidly, Switch 2 sales will make the rest of the current handheld/hybrid market look insignificant.
I defined it as the fact the pc portable market can do emulation and do PC etc games as well. They're very capable. I know the switch sells really well.

If your trying to sell the switch to new customers people like me it needs more to persuade me over say buying a steam deck is how i feel
 
I defined it as the fact the pc portable market can do emulation and do PC etc games as well. They're very capable. I know the switch sells really well.

If your trying to sell the switch to new customers people like me it needs more to persuade me over say buying a steam deck is how i feel

From Nintendo's perspective, following up on one of the best selling consoles in history (beaten only by the PS2 and Nintendo's own DS), they don't strictly need to attract 'new customers' to achieve success - they've got 150 million existing customers to resell to before they worry about finding new people and trying to turn them.

They are different markets despite similar form factors - as a potential Switch 2 customer, I have absolutely zero interest in a SteamDeck or any of the other portable PC deck devices. I would expect most SteamDeck customers have minimal interest in the Switch 2. There will be a crossover group who want and buy both.

Whatever ground it is 'losing' to PC decks, is utterly insignificant to the Switch 2 succeeding or failing imo.
 
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