***The Official Nokia Lumia 920 Thread***

[photoshop]

I have a question guys...

Seeing as Win8 on Lumia and the tablets appears to be similiar (metro style).

Does this mean that apps you have on your phone can be used on the tablet?
Could the tablet be used as an extension to the phone?
Like can i use whatsapp on both?

Is there going to be cross-integration?
Pictures, contacts and other things appear on both in sync?

My plan of action is thus:
- Buy the Lumia 920
- Buy a few wireless chargers (for work and at home)
- Buy a Win8 tablet "pro version"
- Buy the keyboard
- Live blissfully ever after.

 

[cu3ed]

Thats going to depend on the Developers, certainly theirs the ability to do it.
Them shaving the same ground work over all the W8 products drivers etc.

Its what im picturing they are wanting by sharing the same kernal etc.

Its the kindof thing we are waiting to find out more at the end of the month.

 

[Fallen god]

Thats going to depend on the Developers, certainly theirs the ability to do it.
Them shaving the same ground work over all the W8 products drivers etc.

Its what im picturing they are wanting by sharing the same kernal etc.

Its the kindof thing we are waiting to find out more at the end of the month.

WP8 and w8 RT can share apps if the dev wants to, I think it just needs some changes to run on both. Its takes more work to get it to run on w8 and visa versa.

 

[Izi]

WP8 and w8 RT can share apps if the dev wants to, I think it just needs some changes to run on both. Its takes more work to get it to run on w8 and visa versa.

Apps can be shared between phone/desktop and tablet with Windows 8. Just a few hours to change layouts for each device is required, if I understand correctly.

 

[Fallen god]

Apps can be shared between phone/desktop and tablet with Windows 8. Just a few hours to change layouts for each device is required, if I understand correctly.

Looking at the current available SDK, to have an app between RT and wp8 it seemed you just needed a change in layout and such but from wp to w8 it required a brand new project, of course you can share code and so on but its a different beast altogether. This could all change but it is how it is right now.

 

[cu3ed]

WP8 and w8 RT can share apps if the dev wants to, I think it just needs some changes to run on both. Its takes more work to get it to run on w8 and visa versa.

From what I understood was Apps for Phone/ RT will run on W8 within the Metro frame, but Apps for full on W8 wont work on RT etc?

 

[Izi]

Looking at the current available SDK, to have an app between RT and wp8 it seemed you just needed a change in layout and such but from wp to w8 it required a brand new project, of course you can share code and so on but its a different beast altogether. This could all change but it is how it is right now.

Core code can be shared though. So it really is trivial compare to the past.

 

[McPhee]

TBH AT&T really pushed the 900, it was really cheap and had LTE, but it didn't do great, but the limitation in hardware and software could have held it back. Ultimately it didn't steal the show, or even make a dent really. I think we need a lot more advertising from MS, like how we see IE9 adverts non stop now, if windows phone had that behind it we could really see it do great, although the offical windows phones are the HTC ones

It was AT&T's top selling phone on launch week, then second best (behind iP4S) until the Galaxy S III launch. It remained AT&T's third best selling phone until early September. Amazon.com sales followed a similar pattern. The 900 was hampered by availability - it captured decent mindshare stateside but handset availability was sporadic and the AT&T exclusivity went from boon to handicap after the first few weeks. Limiting the exclusivity to 2012 (meaning more carriers Q1 2013) should help sustain the momentum, hopefully correcting one of the mistakes of the 900 launch.

I am kinda disappointed in the exclusivity though. I'd be stupid to leave Vodafone - I have a permanent 20% line rental discount on my account. I could upgrade through CPW, but they don't do 12 month upgrades. I could upgrade through P4U, but looking at their Note II upgrades page, there's only one 12-month option; £299 for the phone, £36/month. That's £80 worse than Vodafone directly, and the low line rental and high upfront cost aren't making the best use of my discount. If the Lumia is a similar price, I was hophg to do better. I'm tempted to get a Note II directly from Vodafone and then sell up when th e920 launches...

 

[Cromulent]

I'm really looking forward to the release of the Lumia 920 but from what I have read it won't support a lossless audio codec (not even Windows Media Audio Lossloss or WAV).

So I have to decide what to do with my large music collection. I was going to convert all the Apple lossless files to something like FLAC but now I am not sure what to do.

I really think Microsoft have messed up here. Not supporting lossless audio codecs seems a bit stupid and is the only thing that would make me reconsider getting a WP8 mobile.

 

[Glaucus]

Ignore

 

[edgedemon]

I'm really looking forward to the release of the Lumia 920 but from what I have read it won't support a lossless audio codec (not even Windows Media Audio Lossloss or WAV).

So I have to decide what to do with my large music collection. I was going to convert all the Apple lossless files to something like FLAC but now I am not sure what to do.

I really think Microsoft have messed up here. Not supporting lossless audio codecs seems a bit stupid and is the only thing that would make me reconsider getting a WP8 mobile.

Yeah, I know how you feel, I ripped all my old records and CD's to FLAC, over 2.5TB, so Im annoyed about this as well. MS just aren't interested in supporting FLAC, so I can't see support coming for it either

Im sure that WAV is supported though..

 

[Glaucus]

Wav is supported, don't see why third party apps can't add flac support, unlike wp7

Music format

Codecs

MP3
AMR-WB
AMR-NB
WMA 10 Pro
WMA 9
AAC LC
AAC+/HEAAC
eAAC+/HEAACv2
Audio playback file formats

ASF
WAV
MP4
AAC
AMR
MP3
M4A
WMA
3GP
3G2

 

[edgedemon]

I hope so, Im not sure if it changes in WP8, but I do know that it needed MS to provide the support in WP7
Fed up of talking about it now, just want to get the damn device in my hands

 

[Glaucus]

A lot of stuff was locked down in wp7. Wp8 most things are available to developers.
So it should be possible, it just depends what is locked down and what isn't.

 

[Cromulent]

Wav is supported, don't see why third party apps can't add flac support, unlike wp7

Well the fact that WAV is supported is a relief but does that also include tagging support for WAV files? I imagine we won't know until release.

As for the adding FLAC support this is something I have considered myself. I certainly have a few ideas for apps I want to develop on WP8.

 

[cu3ed]

Who the hell would want or need FLAC supports on a 32GB mobile phone that isnt specialising in Audio playback!?

 

[forumID]

Who the hell would want or need FLAC supports on a 32GB mobile phone that isnt specialising in Audio playback!?

Kinda thinking this myself. I don't think MS really messed up with FLAC at all, because I can't see the majority of people giving a hoot, because to give a hoot they'd need to know what it is.

 

[edgedemon]

Who the hell would want or need FLAC supports on a 32GB mobile phone that isnt specialising in Audio playback!?

What a narrow minded view

someone might want to be able to have a 5Gb or 10Gb library of playlists on their phone that they can swap out at will with other tunes without having to re-encode any tracks everytime they decide to change their selection
On android, I can just copy the tracks straight to my phone, with wp8, I will have to re-encode everyone that I want to play

 

[cu3ed]

So your putting FLAC ripped tracks on a droid or any mobile phone, thinking yrou getting good playback value, when a simple batch convert will have them at 320kps.

Its not narrow, its practical with no loss of playback quality on such a device.
I assume you will be listening though some Grando cans with a preamp as well then?

 

[edgedemon]

So your putting FLAC ripped tracks on a droid or any mobile phone, thinking yrou getting good playback value, when a simple batch convert will have them at 320kps.

Its not narrow, its practical with no loss of playback quality on such a device.
I assume you will be listening though some Grando cans with a preamp as well then?

not at all, and I get your point about the convert, but it is the hassle factor as I have several terrabytes of tunes. Yes the convert bit works, but sometimes when in a hurry I don't want to have to convert, or have the time, I can just select a couple of albums, dump them on the phone and go.
I probably don't have the equipment at home to do FLAC true justice, but I took the decision when I ripped all my music to rip it into the highest quality format I could as I was selling it all afterwards so wouldn't be able to rip it again, so any quality compromise would be for ever