Yep that was what I believed to be the case. Looking at some articles suggesting demand for the Titan x when released was much greater then anticipated, more so compared with the original Titan which lead me to believe the market while small is growing rather then retracting for the high end market. No doubt the 980Ti only added to this trend but cannot find anything concrete so was curious as to the information by Simon suggesting high end cards do not sell as well any more.
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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **
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Yep that was what I believed to be the case. Looking at some articles suggesting demand for the Titan x when released was much greater then anticipated, more so compared with the original Titan which lead me to believe the market while small is growing rather then retracting for the high end market. No doubt the 980Ti only added to this trend but cannot find anything concrete so was curious as to the information by Simon suggesting high end cards do not sell as well any more.
That's insanely optimistic.
No it isn't. It is just what happens.
I suspect he means the soon part is optimistic but then again it's FoxEye so he is most likely referring to price/perf ratio.
Most reasonably believable info points to Pascal potentially being later than Polaris. Which would mean your soon comment means 6+ months away which is hardly soon. IMHO there is no way Nvidia or AMD would release a GPU at that price/perf ratio unless there was something faster at the £500 price point the current 980Ti/Fury X occupy. They would both completely kill their top end market so I believe Mid Polaris/Pascal will be ~30% faster than FuryX/980Ti and will be ~£500-£550.
If Nvidia are releasing any parts sooner than that I would imagine the new Titan X equivalent with ~£900 price point which would leave all other Nvidia GPUs at existing price points until Q3-Q4.
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I agree with this^
Nvidia have said many times that pascal would be a huge leap from maxwell.
Well by soon I mean with the next generation which will no doubt be with us by the summer or early autumn at the latest.
Exactly. The 780Ti was released at around £500-£550. Then less than a year later the 970 was released which pretty much matched it for less than £300...
and that wasn't even with a die shrink!
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There are more TitanXs on TROH than there are 290Xs even though the latter was half the price.
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Those Christians are at it again.
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/nvidia.pascal.gpu.to.be.ready.by.computex.2016/81341.htm
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/nvidia.pascal.gpu.to.be.ready.by.computex.2016/81341.htm
Agreed, it's only because the market for high end GPU's is so strong now that we see things Titan X selling in the first place. The market is there for it.
GPU / CPU market has never been stronger. The old pre built crappy desktop PC is dying, but the component market is booming.
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But nvidia
, They wont release 1 GPU faster than the 980Ti for £300. When they are still selling Ti's well for 5-600. If it is faster than the Ti its likely to be more expensive.Its more likely they will bring out a whole new range to replace the old ones. 960/970/980/980Ti. But with the same price point for when those cards came out new. One thing they wont be is cheaper
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That is because there were cards above the 970 in those price points. When the lets presume GTX 1080 comes out it will be the highest card in the range.
Did the GTX 680 launch at £300 despite being around 20% faster than the 580?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5699/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-review/7
no it didn't, same price, 20% faster. The 970 isn't remotely comparable because at no time was it close to the fastest card available, not even the fastest card from Nvidia.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_970_Gaming/14.html
at 1080p it was slower than 4 available Nvidia cards(one a duallie) and 2 AMD cards.
When the 680 launched it was the fastest core Nvidia produced, it wasn't a salvaged part, it wasn't much faster than the previous gen, cards available at launch were between £420-480, they weren't close to £300.
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I like how its the big hit that NV might demo a prototype card at GTC....4 months after AMD demoed theirs
Well the people suggesting that NVidia wont release the second tier midrange card (1070) at or around the £300 price point, well you might be right, but history says other wise.
470 $349 £246
480 $499 £351
570 $349 £246
580 $499 £351
670 $400 £282
680 $500 £352
770 $399 £281
970 $349 £246
980 $549 £387
(Edit: these prices are just straight conversions without VAT)
For the last few generations that has been the price point for that tier of card.
The only thing we really cannot be sure about is the performance, but again each *70 series card has been very similar performance to the preceding top tier card. The last time we had a node drop, the 580 to 670, saw the 670 quite a good bit faster than the 580.
Also what kind of business sense does it show, to say here is our new all singing all dancing card, the one we've been banging on about, with slides showing a 10X improvement (in certain areas), yours for only a bizillion dollars oh and it isn't faster than the previous cards.
470 $349 £246
480 $499 £351
570 $349 £246
580 $499 £351
670 $400 £282
680 $500 £352
770 $399 £281
970 $349 £246
980 $549 £387
(Edit: these prices are just straight conversions without VAT)
For the last few generations that has been the price point for that tier of card.
The only thing we really cannot be sure about is the performance, but again each *70 series card has been very similar performance to the preceding top tier card. The last time we had a node drop, the 580 to 670, saw the 670 quite a good bit faster than the 580.
Also what kind of business sense does it show, to say here is our new all singing all dancing card, the one we've been banging on about, with slides showing a 10X improvement (in certain areas), yours for only a bizillion dollars oh and it isn't faster than the previous cards.
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My figures are RRP figures in dollars just converted to pounds, they probably need VAT added.
480 £351 + 17.5% =£412
470 £246 + 17.5% = £289
So actually not that far out at all.
Ah ninja edit. oh well. nevermind then.