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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Volta is next gen and it will be done on same process, so gains are not likely to be as big as they are with Pascal compared to Maxwell...

Volta is likely 10nm.

It is likely to be awhile until consumers get their hands on them as the initial focus is on stuff like Summit.
 
Volta is likely 10nm.

It is likely to be awhile until consumers get their hands on them as the initial focus is on stuff like Summit.

10nm for large monolithic dies wont be till mid - early 2018 at the earliest. Vega and Volta will be 14 and 16nm still.
 
It isn't though. I don't even know what the "founders edition" is, but I presume just some stupid special edition for odd die hard Nvidia fans. Have they specifically said the non founders edition cards are coming loads later?

The actual price for the 1070 is $379 which will be just over £300 here in the UK and it is specifically mentioned as faster than the Titan X and the 1070 is supposed to push 6.5 TFLOPS which is more than the 980 Ti and Titan X.

From all I have read today, isn't the 1070 been faster than the Titan X referring to VR only? That the 2X performance of the 980 for the 1080 is also only for VR?

It seems that the gaming performance for the 1080 is about 25% faster than the 980Ti so the 1070 seems to be coming it at under the 980Ti performance.


I knew the "negative nancy's would swoop right in. Just need DM to complete the group.

LOL, you need to get help. What negative nancy's? Everyone knows that both AMD and Nvidia use best case scenarios in their presentations. We still have to wait for real world benchmarks.

If the 1070 is faster than the Titan X in games, that will be awesome. But, I won't put my faith in a Nvidia (or AMD) presentation.

Seriously tho, who said a 1080 would be slower than a 980ti? Who? I remember there was one rumour that said it (wccf?) and we discussed it for a bit, but most of us before that were saying 980ti +20% or that kind of ballpark.

I personally said the 1070 would be between a 980 and 980ti, and I'm not convinced it'll be faster, but the 1080 was always going to be faster.

Exactly, people have been spouting this nonsense since the bencmarks came out a few days ago.

I also said that the 1070 would be between the 980 and 980ti performance. Nothing in the presentation has made me change my mind, well, it will be faster in VR performance, that much seems clear.

But, I will happy if I am wrong.
 
Nice to see the Vulkan support with Doom and Nvidia. Sorry AMD, but I prefer Vulkan over DX12 for being a multi-platform API.

You do understand that Vulcan mostly is based on Mantle yes? AMD freely gave them the tech while all AMD cards that came out the last 3 years fully support it
 
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They are not going to drop to 200 overnight, not even close. People are just being really silly.

Yes I agree, it looks like a 1080 will beat a 980ti by 15-20% and the 1070 will not be as fast as a 980ti. Not exactly that much of a difference if you have a 980ti, if you have a 970 though looks like a very good upgrade.
 
The only version at launch is probably going to be the Founders version which has a higher default clockspeed. Plus does that mean the standard cards won't clock as well?

This means people will look at the Founders benchmarks and equate them to the cheaper cards.

Plus the figures Nvidia released are going to be the Founders cards over the Titan X.

they can underclock it to stock 1080, i dont know if they will hand out only founder editions as samples, but if performance over last gen isnt that big, overclocking is a big selling point, they have to use it.
 
Exactly, people have been spouting this nonsense since the bencmarks came out a few days ago.

I also said that the 1070 would be between the 980 and 980ti performance. Nothing in the presentation has made me change my mind, well, it will be faster in VR performance, that much seems clear.

But, I will happy if I am wrong.

There were atleast a few people who very definitely claimed the 1080 wouldn't be faster than the 980ti and/or nVidia wouldn't kill off the 980ti.

There are a couple of game benchmarks in there somewhere which showed the 1080 around 28-33% faster than the Titan X and the 1070 around Titan X performance and the slide showing the 1080 about 70% faster in tomb raider than a 980.
 
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Nice to see the Vulkan support with Doom and Nvidia. Sorry AMD, but I prefer Vulkan over DX12 for being a multi-platform API.

everyone preferes vulkan to dx12, and on paper AMD should be better at vulkan than DX12, so everyone is a winner with vulkan.
 
They are not going to drop to 200 overnight, not even close. People are just being really silly.

They will drop to £200 as soon as the Pascal arrives, in what 3 weeks?

Until then, only very silly people will buy any GPU at all.

So not that silly in the grand scheme of things, just 980ti/titan owners not accepting that expensive GPU's loose value quickly.

It would do some people some good to put the shoe on the other foot for a minute - it can be argued that it's a bit dodgy trying to sell a 980ti today for £400+ when they won't be worth anything near that soon.
 
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From all I have read today, isn't the 1070 been faster than the Titan X referring to VR only? That the 2X performance of the 980 for the 1080 is also only for VR?

It seems that the gaming performance for the 1080 is about 25% faster than the 980Ti so the 1070 seems to be coming it at under the 980Ti performance.

No, the claim relating to VR was that the 1080 was 2x faster than a Titan X in some VR scenarios.

The faster than 980 sli performance was related to actual gaming performance for the 1080. Why does this seem so outlandish to you? 2540 pascal cores at 1733mhz boost with GDDR5X, 9 Tflops compared with 2048 Maxwell cores with a 1216mhz and standard gddr5 boost clock and 5 Tflops. It sounds spot on to me.

It was also said that the 1070 would be faster than the Titan X. This makes sense looking at the Tflop rating ( all we have at the moment)
 
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https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=29470235#post29470235

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Members market seems to have a lot of people generally taking the **** in most threads - usually offering ridiculous money.
 
It was also said that the 1070 would be faster than the Titan X. This makes sense looking at the Tflop rating ( all we have at the moment)

People seem to be overlooking the slides with non-VR game relative performance - on my tablet atm so can't easily link.
 
There were atleast a few people who very definitely claimed the 1080 wouldn't be faster than the 980ti and/or nVidia wouldn't kill off the 980ti.

There are a couple of game benchmarks in there somewhere which showed the 1080 around 28-33% faster than the Titan X and the 1070 around Titan X performance.

Nice wide range you have there with all the and/or caveats :)

Honestly, while I do recall a very few people saying 1080 would be about 980Ti speeds the vast majority were claiming 1080 would be ~25% faster but the same price as 980Ti. Nobody was saying Nvidia wouldn't kill off the 980Ti, they were claiming (as was I) that Nvidia would not kill off the £500 price point. This has turned out to be 100% accurate, so much for Nvidia's x80 GPUs always being £400-£450 (*cough* GTX780)

I was wrong about the 1070 prices though, I honestly thought they would be around current 980 prices (could still be with price gouging). I suspect the 1070 is that price because upcoming Polaris will be a very close competitor in price/performance.
 
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