** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[Kaapstad]

Not sure this needed its own thread? It has been said in the thread we have already.

This didn't need its own thread, and Kaap's headline is not only misleading it's not what the article says in fact. I left some comments in the other thread, which I can't be bothered to repeat here.

The bit I found interesting was this part about the compute abilities.

As expected, Nvidia’s high-end graphics processor that belongs to the “Pascal” family will feature an all-new architecture with a number of exclusive innovations, including mixed precision (for the first time Nvidia’s stream processors will support FP16, FP32 and FP64 precision), NVLink interconnection technology for supercomputers and multi-GPU configurations, unified memory addressing as well as support for second-generation high-bandwidth memory (HBM generation 2).

As for the title I don't think it was misleading as I copied it from the linked article.

 

[Gregster]

I only upgraded my original Titans out of boredom and wanting something new to try. They would still be coping just fine if I still had them.

 

[Orangey]

News site titles are misleading in the first place tho.

If it's a prosumer card like OG Titan most of the people buying will probably think the 16GB is a great idea.

 

[Boomstick777]

I only upgraded my original Titans out of boredom and wanting something new to try. They would still be coping just fine if I still had them.

"only upgraded.. out of boredom and wanting something new to try.."

This should be my sig, that's totally me

 

[whyscotty]

I
P.S. Seeing Titan history, I am wondering where do you guys see Titan being future proof, when every possible iteration of that class of cards tend to be laughed at few months later by either competition or nVidia lower grade cards.

Future proofing in PC gaming is futile.

 

[Gregster]

"only upgraded.. out of boredom and wanting something new to try.."

This should be my sig, that's totally me

It is nice to have something new to play with and see what is what but I could still be playing quite nicely on my old 560Ti in truth

 

[whyscotty]

It is nice to have something new to play with and see what is what but I could still be playing quite nicely on my old 560Ti in truth

 

[D.P.]

Do we know that all Pascal cards in the 10xx series will use HBM? Same with AMD?

Is there a chance they'll stick with GDDR5 for the lower-end offerings?

It will be much simpler and cheaper for Nvidia to have HBM from top to mid-end at least.

The only reason the mid-end might get GDDR5 s if there is really a shortage then NVidia could reserve GDDR5 for the high end - but that is a decision that would have been made a long time ago.

 

[D.P.]

Don't know but it would be a bit crap if they stick with GDDR5 and only have HBM on the £500+ cards.

I don't see that it will really make any difference. The bandwidth of HBM is not required yet even for the high end, the 980Ti happily beats the FuryX across the board. Next generation mid-end should equal current high end.

The only downside to the consumer of a GDRR5 mid-end would be larger boards. But I really doubt Nvidia will go for a GDDR5 mid-end, that will be reserved for the low end where GDRR5 will be needed to keep costs down.

 

[Joe!]

The only thing putting me off the Pascal Titan is the reference cooler - Acoustics are important to me and I would like a silent build.

I guess it's 1080Ti if and/or when it is released. :l

Edit: Oh good point about smaller PCBs, maybe we'll see a different reference cooler.

 

[Gregster]

You have a point. The games I am playing mostly at the mo are seriously undemanding and mostly Indie titles, so for now, the 560Ti could cope

 

[whyscotty]

....

Ok so they will do it, then charge £1000+ for the cards. And you silly consumers will snap them up.

Sigh

Thanks for sharing

 

[Relentless81]

And the games will still run better in a £300 console because devs wont utilise any of it

 

[NirK]

I don't see that it will really make any difference. The bandwidth of HBM is not required yet even for the high end, the 980Ti happily beats the FuryX across the board. Next generation mid-end should equal current high end.

The only downside to the consumer of a GDRR5 mid-end would be larger boards. But I really doubt Nvidia will go for a GDDR5 mid-end, that will be reserved for the low end where GDRR5 will be needed to keep costs down.

Not really the fury X is a lot more competitive at 4k than it is at 1440p, yes the memory bus on the 980ti is just about good enough ATM, but the memory bus on the 970 and 980 is too small. I bet the 980ti would be stronger at 4k if it had HBM like the fury X, maybe not at anything less than 4k.

 

[Man-Meat]

"upto" 16GB. Most will have 8GB.

 

[bakes0310]

Pascal Titan won't last 4 years performing at the top level, you'd be much better off getting the 1080ti or whatever it will be called, using that for 2 years, selling it and buying the equivalent TI at the time. Might cost a little more but would serve you much better. I probably wouldn't buy either though if I was using loan money or only working part time.

That's a good point, something I may have to consider. Who knows maybe ill be able to afford the cheapest 1080ti and buy a second one at the same time or shortly after, if I don't get the performance I need.
Just gonna be quite hard waiting if the titan comes out first

 

[FoxEye]

"upto" 16GB. Most will have 8GB.

"High end... Pascal... up to 16GB HBM2."

"High end... Pascal... new architecture with HBM2."

That's what the article says. So as well as the "up to" clarifying that some cards will have less, the article also implies that not all Pascal cards will have HBM2 at all.

 

[Jumper118]

16gb in total for all the cards sold. just like the fury and fury X, there are only 4 in the world

 

[Boomstick777]

"upto" 16GB. Most will have 8GB.

Yerp,

Titan: 16GB.

X80 + X80 Ti: 8GB.

X70: 4GB/6GB..

X60: 2GB / 4GB Maybe even GDDR5.

 

[bru]

So for the first time ever (I think) if AMD release after NVidia, one companies top tier card could have four times as much memory as it's rival, but only until AMD brings us their HBM2 offerings.