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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **
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Soldato
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Best guess at the moment is probably late august/september
Pascal async ? Kind of ?
So having looked into nvidea press release from 2 days ago it looks like Pascal still does not have a hardware level scheduler. However they have made drastic improvements in there premtion based software approach although not true async the results should be a lot better than the Maxwell generation. End results are trying to keep all the shaders fed with data. However still at a performance hit compared to hardware based approch. Nvidea may well just brute force there way through with preemption until a new architecture is made that can do hardware based async. Will wait on reviews to see if it can keep up or remain competitive with a hardware based approch. Where async goes up against preemption. Anyone have more info on this please post below. Thanks
So having looked into nvidea press release from 2 days ago it looks like Pascal still does not have a hardware level scheduler. However they have made drastic improvements in there premtion based software approach although not true async the results should be a lot better than the Maxwell generation. End results are trying to keep all the shaders fed with data. However still at a performance hit compared to hardware based approch. Nvidea may well just brute force there way through with preemption until a new architecture is made that can do hardware based async. Will wait on reviews to see if it can keep up or remain competitive with a hardware based approch. Where async goes up against preemption. Anyone have more info on this please post below. Thanks
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There wont be any further information until the 17th when all the reviews start to come out
Indications of Pascal using brute force were mentioned quite a while ago in a few threads due to the Async issues coming to light after Nvidia had already taped out Pascal and therefore couldnt add Hardware Async. I think Pascal is using a better tweaked version of pre-emption combined with brute force to compensate for no hardware Async but I imagine Volta will get hardware Async.
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Does seem like we'll get a 'brute=force' approach with it. As long as they can use it and get a boost from it I'll be happy 
Can't wait for reviews to come for more detail
Can't wait for reviews to come for more detail
Looks like no async support only brute force. However that means in DX12 with async the new Nvidia cards might overtake the ancient 290X in performance. However with the Polaris 10/11 looming close also, there are going to be a lot of cries. Which will be more loud if Furies are still as fast
the 1070 wont be £300 though. nvidia have already shown they want to increase the prices of the high end. so it will prob be around £375-£400 for the 1070.
nvidia doing what they do best.
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the 1070 wont be £300 though. nvidia have already shown they want to increase the prices of the high end. so it will prob be around £375-£400 for the 1070.
nvidia doing what they do best.
to be fair, the 4th position card was $299 10 years ago, $299 to $379 over 10 years is not that bad as far as inflation goes. Its not actually nvidia's fault that the exchange rate sucks at the moment.
the best card 10 years ago was $829, which is well north of $1000 at todays rates and would be around £910 at todays exchange rates and VAT, but people seem to think GPU's have massively increased in price
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After a certain point Vram OCing is as important as Corespeed but only really on higher res where the Vram is actually used.
the 1070 wont be £300 though. nvidia have already shown they want to increase the prices of the high end. so it will prob be around £375-£400 for the 1070.
nvidia doing what they do best.
Seems like they won't get the same train of sales they did with the 970 then, which was very popular due to excellent price to performance. Not that I particularly care about the 1070 myself, I'm looking to the real big guns, Vega and the 1080ti. Now if those cards increase in price too, then they've completely lost it (Vega is AMD though). Considering Polaris is targeting the mid-range/low-end, it's going to be interesting to see how the two fare. One is going high-priced and high-end and the other is going affordable, mid-end.
Nvidia will have the likes of the 1060/1050 to come.
And for like the 5th time - there is absolutely zero reasoning behind this. They've already stated the price of the 1070. And we know generally how the conversion has looked. 1070 will be right around £300 for the lower end 3rd party cards.the 1070 wont be £300 though. nvidia have already shown they want to increase the prices of the high end. so it will prob be around £375-£400 for the 1070.
nvidia doing what they do best.
I really do love how some people are literally getting upset over a situation they've merely invented in their mind! lol
Also, the GTX970 came in at £260, not £300. Another situation where people were fearmongering over insane price hikes that never happened.
Lastly, the GTX670 and 770 both came in at MORE than the 1070 does.
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And when the 970 was launched, the pound was stronger against the dollar.