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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

TheRealDeal said:
It's also supposed to be as fast as gtx980ti sli at that setting. I think we can all say it's bs. Reviews ain't far off so we shall see whats what for real.
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Almost certainly, I just live the fact that some people are very picking results from what they want to see.

I think the only semi reliable, leaked benchmark is the 3Dmark showing a stock 1080 is about 40% faster than a stock 980ti, which makes sense from what we know.
 
D.P. said:
What is funny is at the 1440p extreme the supposed 1080 is 60% faster than the FuryX in an AMD biased game.
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I'm still trying to figure out why it's somehow an "AMD biased game." Must be something to do with sensible tessellation levels and not using Gameworks *shrug*
All the benchmarks I've seen from AOTS seem to mimic a sort of "average" performance level when you take a wide spread of games' results. Where AMD is ahead, it's marginal - where nVidia is ahead, it's marginal -- exactly where you'd expect the results to be. The only people claiming it's AMD biased are the usual nVidians who think anything less than 1000000x better means it's somehow an unfair test, whereas sensible people would see anything more than about 20% difference as being an obviously biased test (disregarding any driver issues).
 
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do you think anyone will make one with a reference style cooler rather than the cheesy founders edition forged from megatrons shin pads?
 
D.P. said:
:rolleyes:, the 1080 is shipping in May.
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Read his actual post and try again without the green tinted goggles on. He is not duspiting the release dates or being in any way anti Nvidia. He is simply stating his opinion that by late July/August prices here for 1070/1080 GPUs could be much higher if there is a yes vote in the Brexit.
 
pmc25 said:
If there's an exit vote on June the 23rd, by the time the 1070 and 1080 ship in volume in late July or August, then I'd expect a vanilla 1070 to cost at least £450. Sterling will have fallen through the floor by that stage.
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Based on what? If anything the Euro and USD are just as likely to fall on the news of a full Brexit.
 
Isn't VAT an EU tax?

Back off Brussels!

Stock will be already bought before any rise in the rates. Not that that will stop e-tailers using it as an excuse to gouge the price.
 
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Orangey said:
Isn't VAT an EU tax?

Back off Brussels!
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Yes,like our government with a mostly self inflicted £1.7 trillion debt is going to suddenly remove VAT on a non-essential item like a graphics card.

:p

Orangey said:
Stock will be already bought before any rise in the rates.
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You forget that retailers will add the early adopter tax. Happens to both AMD and Nvidia cards quite often at launch.
 
Howling said:
I'm still trying to figure out why it's somehow an "AMD biased game." Must be something to do with sensible tessellation levels and not using Gimpworks *shrug*
All the benchmarks I've seen from AOTS seem to mimic a sort of "average" performance level when you take a wide spread of games' results. Where AMD is ahead, it's marginal - where nVidia is ahead, it's marginal -- exactly where you'd expect the results to be. The only people claiming it's AMD biased are the usual nVidians who think anything less than 1000000x better means it's somehow an unfair test, whereas sensible people would see anything more than about 20% difference as being an obviously biased test (disregarding any driver issues).
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+1
 
ICDP said:
Read his actual post and try again without the green tinted goggles on. He is not duspiting the release dates or being in any way anti Nvidia. He is simply stating his opinion that by late July/August prices here for 1070/1080 GPUs could be much higher if there is a yes vote in the Brexit.
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no, he is saying there won't be pascal volume until July or August which is just more rubbish along the same lines that Nvidia is 6 months behind AMD. It is baseless nonsense that has been disproven with hard facts but some people are in complete denial.


The effects of brexit would be interesting but A) is very unlikely B) a large forex collapse will affect AMD just as much so is irrelevant C) Companies base prices on factors more than just exhange rates from the USD, they factor in regional affordability on to price points.
 
Howling said:
I'm still trying to figure out why it's somehow an "AMD biased game." Must be something to do with sensible tessellation levels and not using Gimpworks *shrug*
All the benchmarks I've seen from AOTS seem to mimic a sort of "average" performance level when you take a wide spread of games' results. Where AMD is ahead, it's marginal - where nVidia is ahead, it's marginal -- exactly where you'd expect the results to be. The only people claiming it's AMD biased are the usual nVidians who think anything less than 1000000x better means it's somehow an unfair test, whereas sensible people would see anything more than about 20% difference as being an obviously biased test (disregarding any driver issues).
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As soon as somebody uses words like "gimpworks" you know they have no argument what so ever and are merely resorting to petty name calling instead of substantive debate.
 
D.P. said:
As soon as somebody uses words like "gimpworks" you know they have no argument what so ever and are merely resorting to petty name calling instead of substantive debate.
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Even a lot of nVidians call it so, it is simply gimpworks. I'm sure you'd never say such a thing though, even your blood is green mate :P
Or would you prefer Game-doesn't-works ?
Edit: and if using 1 word offending you somehow negates the entirety of my point, then I'm sure 99.99% of all threads on this forum are negated by someone not liking part of a post.
 
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Gregster said:
Not arguing with that and I looked at Kaaps bench and seen how the 980Ti and TX do just fine in it, so I certainly have no worries with the 1080. It is just the way that that is being used as the "be all and end all". Far too early to make any assumptions including DX12 and we will have to wait it out for bofficial bench results etc.
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As you said mate, the tin hatters are out in force.

Well played to the 980ti owner trying to get £440 on the MM for his card before the Jesus card drops. God loves triers.
 
Howling said:
Even a lot of nVidians call it so, it is simply gimpworks. I'm sure you'd never say such a thing though, even your blood is green mate :P
Or would you prefer Game-doesn't-works ?
Edit: and if using 1 word offending you somehow negates the entirety of my point, then I'm sure 99.99% of all threads on this forum are negated by someone not liking part of a post.
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It's about the level of maturity somebody displays when making an argument. Using super juvenile and petty little play-on-words names for things is not the sign of somebody who is there to make a reasonable and objective point.

Has nothing to do with it being 'offensive'. The fact that you see it that way only makes it clear that this is your hope and intention doing such a thing.

It's the sort of thing that you see 10 year olds do.
 
Orangey said:
Isn't VAT an EU tax?

Back off Brussels!

Stock will be already bought before any rise in the rates. Not that that will stop e-tailers using it as an excuse to gouge the price.
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Brussels get blamed for far to much like all the Health and safety nonsense which is really from our government not the EU or Brussels.
 
Orangey said:
Isn't VAT an EU tax?

Back off Brussels!

Stock will be already bought before any rise in the rates. Not that that will stop e-tailers using it as an excuse to gouge the price.
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It has nothing to do with the EU & leaving the EU will not stop it.... it is however a TAX that many countries use as a way of gaining money from doing nothing, but as we set the level of VAT in the UK current 20% in or out of the EU will not change that %, only the UK government can. Miss the days of 15% under new labour.

What could change is import duty as anything coming in from EU would no longer be under free movement of goods and the UK could slap a tax on it, much in the same way if you import anything over £13 outside the EU it runs the risk of import tax, but a cargo container of GPU's is a bit harder to get under the radar than a DVD...


However saying all that, how many GPU's are made in the EU? At a push i would go with none, so in or out of the EU on june 23rd will have a net result of no change to the price.

PS super side note even if we vote out on june 23rd it could take 2 years before we break off, so until then it would be as normal
 
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