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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Seanspeed said:
It's about the level of maturity somebody displays when making an argument. Using super juvenile and petty little play-on-words names for things is not the sign of somebody who is there to make a reasonable and objective point.

Has nothing to do with it being 'offensive'. The fact that you see it that way only makes it clear that this is your hope and intention doing such a thing.

It's the sort of thing that you see 10 year olds do.
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It's broken - it's been known as gimpworks for some time. If you can't see a valid point past one word, it's more your issue than mine as far as I see it *shrug*
Wouldn't see me getting butthurt if you called crossfire 'crossfail' - because, frankly, it's quite accurate. Or the Fureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee X for the whine. Or literally any singular word that accurately describes, or is a humorous play on issues that a feature or product has. What does annoy me, however, is when people pretend they have some sort of pedestal when they themselves get butthurt over a mere word. That's what 30 year olds with the mind of 10 year olds do :)

And in an attempt to ignore all this deflection team green is putting forth over a mere word, I'm still waiting to see what makes AotS biased toward AMD. Literally the benchmark shows exactly the performance values you'd expect over a cross section of games on both sides of "the fence".
 
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I believe the 1050/60 will not arrive till later since the GP106 die is shared with Automotive DrivePX2 parts. So they might be shipping them exclusive to automakers first.
 
Howling said:
It's broken - it's been known as gimpworks for some time. If you can't see a valid point past one word, it's more your issue than mine as far as I see it *shrug*
Wouldn't see me getting butthurt if you called crossfire 'crossfail' - because, frankly, it's quite accurate. Or the Fureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee X for the whine. Or literally any singular word that accurately describes, or is a humorous play on issues that a feature or product has. What does annoy me, however, is when people pretend they have some sort of pedestal when they themselves get butthurt over a mere word. That's what 30 year olds with the mind of 10 year olds do :)

And in an attempt to ignore all this deflection team green is putting forth over a mere word, I'm still waiting to see what makes AotS biased toward AMD. Literally the benchmark shows exactly the performance values you'd expect over a cross section of games on both sides of "the fence".
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Nobody is being 'butthurt' here man. This is again you thinking you're stomping on the tails of people when you're merely whistling at their backs.

This sort of thing is just juvenile. Nobody is laughing. It's not the least bit clever or humorous in any way. I'm not trying to act like I'm on a pedestal here, but when somebody is rolling around in the mud, it's hard not to stand around and think somebody is really just digging their own hole.

Anyways, to be quite specific, Gameworks is a very mixed bag. It has done some very good things and some pretty worthless things. HBAO+ and now VXAO stand out as some of the most shining examples of where Gameworks features make a HUGE difference(honestly, neither of these has been touched by any other AO implementation out there). Their PCSS technique is also highly impressive, albeit quite demanding. Good for those with spare power. And there's some good examples of PhysX implementations, like with Borderlands 2.

Treating it like some super black and white subject is just really not gonna get any discussion anywhere. It comes across more as somebody trying to push an agenda rather than trying to have a quality back-and-forth.
 
Seanspeed said:
Nobody is being 'butthurt' here man. This is again you thinking you're stomping on the tails of people when you're merely whistling at their backs.

This sort of thing is just juvenile. Nobody is laughing. It's not the least bit clever or humorous in any way. I'm not trying to act like I'm on a pedestal here, but when somebody is rolling around in the mud, it's hard not to stand around and think somebody is really just digging their own hole.

Anyways, to be quite specific, Gameworks is a very mixed bag. It has done some very good things and some pretty worthless things. HBAO+ and now VXAO stand out as some of the most shining examples of where Gameworks features make a HUGE difference(honestly, neither of these has been touched by any other AO implementation out there). Their PCSS technique is also highly impressive, albeit quite demanding. Good for those with spare power. And there's some good examples of PhysX implementations, like with Borderlands 2.

Treating it like some super black and white subject is just really not gonna get any discussion anywhere. It comes across more as somebody trying to push an agenda rather than trying to have a quality back-and-forth.
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Again, not discussing the merits of gimpworks. I'll concede, there are some good *ideas* in it - though for the most part they've either been extraordinarily poorly implemented or there's an issue with them at the core.
I'm still not sure how my question about AotS somehow turned into a pro-gimpworks rally considering I only mentioned it in passing. Who'da thunk 1 word would garner so much dumb :/ I'm not treating it like any black and white issue, I only mentioned the ****ing thing by name and didn't say ANYTHING about it. I could edit the word out of my post and the post would still be making the exact same god damned point.

So again. How exactly is AotS a "pro AMD" benchmark? The results are pretty much exactly what you'd expect if you took an average of a cross section of games. There's no real surprises in the benchmark results.
 
Just turn off the gameworks features that do not run well and use the ones you want, it could be a lot worse. For example like project cars where the game ran horrible on AMD because physX had to run on the CPU.
 
Pottsey said:
Brussels get blamed for far to much like all the Health and safety nonsense which is really from our government not the EU or Brussels.
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Or blaming European human rights, which has nothing to do with the Eu and Britain would still be a member even if there was a Brexit.
 
Seanspeed said:
Nobody is being 'butthurt' here man. This is again you thinking you're stomping on the tails of people when you're merely whistling at their backs.

This sort of thing is just juvenile. Nobody is laughing. It's not the least bit clever or humorous in any way. I'm not trying to act like I'm on a pedestal here, but when somebody is rolling around in the mud, it's hard not to stand around and think somebody is really just digging their own hole.

Anyways, to be quite specific, Gameworks is a very mixed bag. It has done some very good things and some pretty worthless things. HBAO+ and now VXAO stand out as some of the most shining examples of where Gameworks features make a HUGE difference(honestly, neither of these has been touched by any other AO implementation out there). Their PCSS technique is also highly impressive, albeit quite demanding. Good for those with spare power. And there's some good examples of PhysX implementations, like with Borderlands 2.

Treating it like some super black and white subject is just really not gonna get any discussion anywhere. It comes across more as somebody trying to push an agenda rather than trying to have a quality back-and-forth.
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Great post! Sums up the situation perfectly.
 
Think I've decided that I'll definitely wait for the 1080ti or Titan, unless the 1080 completely blows everything away (which the hype doesn't suggest) in which case I'd give it consideration but it looks unlikely.
 
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