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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Not sure why people are already stressing but also why would you say a 15-20% increase over a 980Ti is not worth £150-200 once you've sold the old card?? I'm totally down with that cost for that level of improvement, not to mention all the other future proof features it carries.

See what a decent review says, pretty sure water cooled cards are going to deliver some great speeds if we overclock the crap out of them.

Depends what the 980 ti went for and how much the 1080 are

Yes lower power is a major plus and higher clock speeds for sure
but the rest VR & mem compression from what i have seen nothing as really changed on the architecture from maxwell apart from a large shrink
 
Not sure why people are already stressing but also why would you say a 15-20% increase over a 980Ti is not worth £150-200 once you've sold the old card?? I'm totally down with that cost for that level of improvement, not to mention all the other future proof features it carries.

See what a decent review says, pretty sure water cooled cards are going to deliver some great speeds if we overclock the crap out of them.

Once upon a time for that outlay you could get a 70% improvement in one year. The price is getting higher and the improvements are getting lower. If Amd/Nvidia came in with the big guns at a similar price nobody would be complaining.
 
No I want it to be the same as they said in the presentation :

1.75x 980 in witcher 3

1.8x 980 in ROTR

If that is not the case then Nvidia are lying again.

1.7x and 1.8x 980 is more than 15-20% faster than a 980ti.
 
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Not quite sure what people were expecting? 20-30% better than a 980ti with potential for a decent 3rd party one with better cooling to be 40%+ faster is exactly where I thought they were going to be and I'm still buying one.

Were all these 980ti sellers thinking Nvidia had understated the cards and they were magically going to be 100% faster?

And its still looking good that a 1070 should be pretty much on par with a 980ti which if those cards are £300-350 then its not going to do much for second hand 980ti values................
 
15 to 20% seems reasonable to me. Not like theyve invented a new quantum state of matter or anything to drive further than that. What other product gets you more than 20% improvement from one generation to the next.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me too, for what will probably be £150-200 depending on sales price of my 980Ti.
 
No I want it to be the same as they said in the presentation :

1.7x 980 in witcher 3

1.8x 980 in ROTR

If that is not the case then Nvidia are flat out lying again.

They are not as they probably used a setting where this was the case. They might even have saturated the gtx980's memory. I think we know Nvidia would show a best case snerario as would AMD.
 
15 to 20% seems reasonable to me. Not like theyve invented a new quantum state of matter or anything to drive further than that. What other product gets you more than 20% improvement from one generation to the next.

There are rare times when they release a card with insane gains, like 8800GTX, but I guess they have learned their lesson from this and now drip feed the progress to maximise milkage.
 
If the 1080 is £520+ and not £200 better than the 1070 then it's simple - get the 1070 just as lots of us went for the 970 over the 980.

As the 970/980 is OK for 1080 then no way in one generation is their replacement going to be OK for 4K - 4 times the grunt needed not the 1.7 we're getting.

But that 1.7 times + 8GB VRAM + other Pascal goodies is fine for me - no idea why everyone were expecting miracles.
 
If the 1080 is £520+ and not £200 better than the 1070 then it's simple - get the 1070 just as lots of us went for the 970 over the 980.

As the 970/980 is OK for 1080 then no way in one generation is their replacement going to be OK for 4K - 4 times the grunt needed not the 1.7 we're getting.

But that 1.7 times + 8GB VRAM + other Pascal goodies is fine for me - no idea why everyone were expecting miracles.
 
They are not as they probably used a setting where this was the case. They might even have saturated the gtx980's memory. I think we know Nvidia would show a best case snerario as would AMD.

Yeh I already know that but saturating the 980 memory would be false advertising... actually it wouldn't...
 
I would want and need the 1070 to be good for 21:9 1440, not 1080 (the resolution). 1080p died years ago for me personally, although I certainly appreciate a large % of people still use it and will for some time yet.
 
There are rare times when they release a card with insane gains, like 8800GTX, but I guess they have learned their lesson from this and now drip feed the progress to maximise milkage.

Yes that was a massive gain

but for me the biggest was and i know i am going way back was glide api on a voodoo coming from software renderer in quake ...oh them sparks :)
 
Yes that was a massive gain

but for me the biggest was and i know i am going way back was glide api on a voodoo coming from software renderer in quake ...oh them sparks :)

I was just thinking about that today! I remember plugging in my first ever GPU a voodoo card and quake going from 2fps to smooth butter and amazing graphics. It was like the jump from .midi to .mp3. Amazing.
 
Why don't these yanks respect the fact that we once ruled the world and invented timezones. Things should be released according to GMT. Heathens.
 
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