** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[Mackey18]

Yea the £ is so weak at the moment, that's a further explanation for the high price. No doubt helped by this Brexit scaremongering which has driven the £ down further in recent months.

 

[Sasahara]

All it takes is for a month or two of GBP strengthening giving us a little over 1.5 dollars to the pound and we'd be where you'd like it.

I just ordered some more stuff from the US, XE rate was 1.44, but my bank put the transaction through at 1.395

I remember buying stuff many many years ago and getting over two dollars to the pound, how I wish those times would return.

Yeah I fondly remember the good old days, 2 dollar & 240 yen rates.

I can't wait 2 more months, give it too me now!

So it all comes down to the vote next month, Yes or No for cheap GPUS!

 

[Phixsator]

You need to wake up..

Non FE editions will not be 600!!!!!

Foe the hundredth time.

The 980ti was the same pricxe on release

Why are people such noobs!

Its easy to get!!!!

the 980ti was a tier above it though(the 980) and so will the 1080ti be if/when it gets released. It seems stupid to pay 1080ti money right now for 1080 when the 1080 doesn't even take a clear lead in every single game. Heck it even gets a draw against the fury x in hitman when DX12 is used and looses to the 295x2 in a few benches as well which is mind boggling considering how much people complain about crossfire these days. Was it not suppose to be twice the speed of 980 SLI? yet cannot handedly beat the old dog 100%. My point with all of this is not that the 1080 is not a good card cause it certainly is but instead that if you demand top tier class money you should deliver top tier class performance as well which it doesn't 100% as it clearly has a few things holding it back. Now board partner cards may change all this but for now we only know for sure about the FE edition which is a joke imho if you already on a 900 series card.

But in the end this is my personal opinion and just one of many why i want be buying the 1080. If you or any other feel differently then go right ahead, its your money i hope the purchase makes you happy and satisfied(nope not meant sarcasticly)

 

[IvanDobskey]

The price for every new card has been creeping up for a while now, and people can't see this?

I guess the more suckers buying these, the more will be on the members market at the end of the year for half the price when the ti version comes out at £700.

 

[GFX-Kid]

people will want to compare thing to specific way to justify their choices .

Yeah, this thread is going round in circles now.

I will drop by again in a few weeks time once the 1070/Polaris reviews are hopefully out

 

[D.P.]

And the 1080ti will be faster and more expensive again.

Do you get it yet?

And the 1180 will be faster than the 1080ti?

Do you get it?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The price for every new card has been creeping up for a while now, and people can't see this?

1.)GTX680 launch price $499
2.)GTX980 launch price $549
3.)GTX1080 launch price $699 then dropping to $599(maybe)

These are all first tier small GPU flagship cards.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Isn't everybody forgetting about the fact we have poor exchange rates atm?

The fact is, with the exception of the titanx, Nvidia has pretty much charged the same rate for about 20 years for their current fastest card.

I expect the 1080ti will be launched with the same sales price as the 1080 is now and the 1080 will drop down a little.

That's definitely a factor but since the gtx680 we are getting the mid range chip first and getting top end pricing. I get things seem to be more difficult each node shrink so prices will go up but they are rising faster than I expected. Common the pound lol.

 

[D.P.]

The price for every new card has been creeping up for a while now, and people can't see this?

Actually not, the price has stayed static. What you are seeing is called inflation.

 

[Jono8]

The price for every new card has been creeping up for a while now, and people can't see this?

With the exception of the titan range, this isnt true.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

1.)GTX680 launch price $499
2.)GTX980 launch price $549
3.)GTX1080 launch price $699 then dropping to $599(maybe)

These are all first tier small GPU flagship cards.

That's definitely a factor but since the gtx680 we are getting the mid range chip first and getting top end pricing. I get things seem to be more difficult each node shrink so prices will go up but they are rising faster than I expected. Common the pound lol.

The USD price seems to be increasing for the first tier small GPU flagship cards.

 

[Greebo]

Wrong, the too end GPU has always sold at around $700 when factoring inflation. Card values are equal or actually slightly less than historic standards. The 8800 was $800 on release at today's rates.

Why do people find this basic fact so hard to believe? Why keep spreading FUD about prices?

Correct so the 8800 would be £685 today.

And the 8800 Ultra was $829 which is $1117 adjusted for inflation at today's exchange rate plus vat would be £957!!!!!

People have short memories...............

 

[Gregster]

At the end of the day, the people bending over for nvidia (lube is probably an extra £100) will try to justify the price any which way they can.

Nobody is bending over and you have no idea what people have as disposable income. Those buying will enjoy their cards and those making silly statements can do one!

 

[LoadsaMoney]

It's been like this for a long time, people will continue to pay.

Yup, its always the same, just look at how well the TX sold for a grand.


If you want them to reduce the prices, then don't buy em, just leave the buggers on the shelves

 

[easyrider]

Correct so the 8800 would be £685 today.

And the 8800 Ultra was $829 which is $1117 adjusted for inflation at today's exchange rate plus vat would be £957!!!!!

People have short memories...............

This was 599 IIRC

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/EN7900GTX2PHT512M/

 

[Jono8]

Fact is, if you want the absolute fastest and best card you gotta pay. This has always been the case.

 

[Gerard]

Nobody is bending over

I suppose a sex swing can alleviate that problem.

 

[TwsT]

It hasn't though, not REALLY. It is a relatively new phenomena that has seen the disposable culture we live in take on such an insane approach to pricing, and in reality how long can this really continue?? When the 1080Ti is released at prices around £800... which let's be honest, it WILL be based on the 1080 price... and then the HBM2 cards at £1K, again highly likely... do you HONESTLY think that is sustainable? The % of consumers willing to play this game will dwindle year on year, before you're left with a very small tech elite consisting of lottery winners and those with rich parents as the only people able to afford these products! Can manufacturers and retailers not see beyond the end of your balance sheets lol??! It's pure greed and is not a sustainable model, it really isn't!

I don't disagree but I think we're a fair way off the bubble.

That is the nature of the economy we currently live in.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Actually not, the price has stayed static. What you are seeing is called inflation.

Which ignores things like the costs of electronics in general going down over time. Inflation is more readily seen in products where the cost of production doesn't change. IE 20 years ago it cost more to put together cards, it cost more to ship products, it cost more to produce chips because it was all done at smaller scales. Milk goes up at inflation rate because not much has changed in how milk is produced in 50 years, same for bread and other things. technology isn't bringing their basic price down while inflation brings it back up.

You can't simply say inflation accounts for it because inflation doesn't work like that. Direct inflation increases in costs are only visible in products without any dramatic change in anything else to change costs over time, technology, electronics and certainly graphics cards don't fall into that category at all.

More to the point, comparing like for like, currently we're seeing Nvidia launching midsized parts that cost dramatically less to produce launching with high end pricing.

10 years ago Nvidia launches the 8800gtx at $700 or whatever it was, the 8600gt at say $350 and the 8300gt at say $150. Today Nvidia would release the 8600gt at $700, then months later the 8800 core called a Titan at $1000, then release a 'cheap' version called the 8800ti at $700. Essentially Nvidia has jacked up the midrange cards by 100% and held back the high end to get more 'high end' products. What was the actual launch price of a 8600gt, and what is the launch price of the 1080, is that just down to inflation?

The price of the high end doesn't even matter, the biggest issue is the price of the midrange card. In one year or 10 years from now, the 1080 will be considered the midrange Pascal card. The card is what it is, costs what it costs to produce and is designed to be profitable at midrange prices, so paying high end for it is just silly.

 

[easyrider]

Fact is, if you want the absolute fastest and best card you gotta pay. This has always been the case.