** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[drunkenmaster]

Exactly, why would AIBs sell the reference 1080 for more than their custom cooled editions that run better due to far superior cooling solutions.

FE edition £620
MSI Gaming edition with custom cooling and higher boost clocks and far more sustainable OC. £520

I just don't see it happening.

I do think they'll actually be cheaper, but it will be because the early adopters tax will go away once there is actually supply. IE today a MSI custom cooled card wouldn't be £520, but 1-2 months from now the reference card will either become unavailable(except for existing stock, which won't be much) or it will drop to say £480, at which point a custom card at £520 is still more expensive.

I think once Polaris 10 hits, in volume and extremely competitive with the 1070 if not beating it and when 1080 has actual real supply, it will be £450 or less and will drop further once the 1080ti comes out but that probably won't be till Q2 or Q3 next year.

 

[melmac]

The Founder Edition IS the reference edition.

It's just a lot more expensive than it used to be.

The rational is that Nvidia don;t undercut their partners, who can come in with custom cards at a lower price (£550 etc)

The truth is that they will price them the same or higher, and we will be paying £650 for a Gigabyte G1 1080

Hope i'm totally wrong lol

Yes, I know the founder edition is the reference edition.

I want to know where the $599 edition is, in the video a few pages back the Nvidia guy said that both editions would be available on the same day. That people would have a choice..

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

the 390 smashes the 970 yet in doom 4 the 970 smashes the 390

they close to each other its just who has worked with who while making the game or gave them a few million for the extra frames

if the 1070 is as fast as the 980ti or just under its £400 minimum.

It is all in people's head. I was reading this article:
http://wccftech.com/amd-takes-gpu-share-nvidia-q1-2016/

Interestingly, JPR found that only 15% of all GPUs sold are priced at $349 or higher. And of that 15% only 3% are priced at $449 or higher. This means that AMD’s Polaris GPUs are aimed at market segments where the volumes are inherently significantly larger compared to Nvidia’s GTX 1080 and GTX 1070.

So,97% of all cards sold are under $449.

That would be roughly £360 with VAT here.

85% are under £300.

This means the GTX1070 pricing might be not as random as people think.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yes, I know the founder edition is the reference edition.

I want to know where the $599 edition is, in the video a few pages back the Nvidia guy said that both editions would be available on the same day. That people would have a choice..

I hope people buy the cheaper AIB cards - at least around £500ish is what the GTX980TI and Fury X launched for and it will put an upper limit on card costs.

If the minimum upper tier becomes £600 we are frakked.

 

[seabiscuit]

The same happens every year, everyone is upset with the price yet buys one anyway, 12 months later a new card comes out, people moan and still buy it.

I think at launch, people were actually pleasantly surprised by the 970/980 pricing and performance.
Pricing and performance is pretty linear from 970 -> 980 - 980Ti ->1080. i.e. as they increase in relative performance, they increase in proportional cost. But yeah, got to say I was hoping that it'd be another 970/980 moment where the cards were released with both amazing performance and amazing price.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I think at launch, people were actually pleasantly surprised by the 970/980 pricing and performance.
Pricing and performance is pretty linear from 970 -> 980 - 980Ti ->1080. i.e. as they increase in relative performance, they increase in proportional cost. But yeah, got to say I was hoping that it'd be another 970/980 moment where the cards were released with both amazing performance and amazing price.

But hopefully the GTX1070 should be an OK price,right??

 

[smilertoo]

nvidia extract the urine because experience shows them plenty of people will rush to buy no matter the price.

 

[seabiscuit]

I'm hoping so myself, but I'm too low down the food chain to know. Sorry Cat.

 

[tommybhoy]

AMD watching the 1080 Price reveal...

Fixed

 

[harney]

But hopefully the GTX1070 should be an OK price,right??

I doubt it from what he stated there looks like the 1070 is £400 £450 +

 

[seabiscuit]

I honestly have no idea. Admitedly if I did I couldn't say what it was. But I honestly don't.

 

[Gregster]

Well the non FE 1070 is touted at $349, so put that into exchange rates and it should be under £300 without gouging.

 

[harney]

Well the non FE 1070 is touted at $349, so put that into exchange rates and it should be under £300 without gouging.

just put in the nvidia and gouging exchange
comes to + £200

 

[AlamoX]

the 390 smashes the 970 yet in doom 4 the 970 smashes the 390

they close to each other its just who has worked with who while making the game or gave them a few million for the extra frames

if the 1070 is as fast as the 980ti or just under its £400 minimum.

not really 390 out performs the 970 in the vast majority of games, and beats it across the board in 1440p.
Doom 4 isn't even a DX game it's an OpenGL game, Nvidia is much better at it than AMD, and latest driver gave 35% more perf for the 390, and it's not like it matters, we have like what 1 openGL game every 5 years ?
when vulkan version of doom comes out, the 390 will probably be significantly ahead.

 

[Smrtka]

Well the non FE 1070 is touted at $349, so put that into exchange rates and it should be under £300 without gouging.

dreams i guess But if 1070 in sli > then 1080 I would consider that

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I'm hoping so myself, but I'm too low down the food chain to know. Sorry Cat.

Fair enough. I just hope the GTX1080 is an anomaly in pricing for the 14NM/16NM cards.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well the non FE 1070 is touted at $349, so put that into exchange rates and it should be under £300 without gouging.

That sounds more like the traditional 70 series pricing which is around £300,which looks closer to normality.

 

[karik666]

The non FE 1070 is priced at $379 which is £312 incl vat,then add the gouging tax on top.

 

[beany_bot]

Come on. Nvidia have shown their cards. The mask is off. Yes 1070 's in Sli will destroy 1080 but we all know that it's going to cost over £450. The writing is on the wall people! The die is cast.

 

[harney]

looks like the team at Galax got there black markers out to cover that awful clown head that was on the box..