** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[studulike]

I am still gonna get one but only want EVGA 1080 Hybrid .hope the price is no more than £650 .

but see the price of EVGA FE on OCUK , now likely will be more on here. I want to buy from OCUK but if compettitor is cheaper then i will go with compettitor .

 

[Telecaster]

Can't believe the dedicated thread for this video was shut down (probably so it didn't harm 1080 pre orders I guess), it's the most important piece of info to come out of the 1080 reviews.

https://youtu.be/myDYnofz_JE?t=320

So in a decent case the 1080 boost gets massively reduced after a few minutes of gaming but probably won't affect benchmarks.


This is a great slide:

Real world results over time, given the 1080 seems to get about 10% framerate boost from its overclock that means at 4k it's basically equal to TX, 8% faster than 980Ti and 15% faster than Fury X (erroneously labelled as stock)

That slide nails it for me, 2% faster than a 1430 clocked 980ti, mine does 1480 easy and doesn't even get anywhere near it's throttling temp.

 

[Guest2]

That slide nails it for me, 2% faster than a 1430 clocked 980ti, mine does 1480 easy and doesn't even get anywhere near it's throttling temp.

Interesting slide. My 980Ti classified is rock stable now at 1470/2000 in everything (despite my efforts to get 1500 on the core)

I doubt the 1080, even when overclocked, would be noticeably faster in any game

 

[tyler_jrb]

Interesting slide. My 980Ti classified is rock stable now at 1470/2000 in everything (despite my efforts to get 1500 on the core)

I doubt the 1080, even when overclocked, would be noticeably faster in any game

Ti at 1430 and 1080 at 2025. 1080 is a good 20-30% faster in the majority of games including 4K. AIB cards at 2.2-2.3ghz, that gap can only increase.

980 ref vs 980 AIB cards. Would be a far better choice currently to compare 980Ti ref vs 1080 ref. Compare AIB 980Ti's to AIB 1080's once released.

http://techreport.com/review/28685/geforce-gtx-980-ti-cards-compared/5

 

[Sacrifice]

When the 290/x were known to throttle, EVERY reviewer mentioned it, and/or did a special follow up. I hope the same treatment will be given to this card?

 

[Drollic]

Interesting slide. My 980Ti classified is rock stable now at 1470/2000 in everything (despite my efforts to get 1500 on the core)

I doubt the 1080, even when overclocked, would be noticeably faster in any game

Of course it will be. At least with 3rd party cooling. Comparing one of the best 980ti with a good over clock vs a stock 1080 and default cooling is fairly pointless. A lot of people buy these blower cards for sli or to go custom cooled anyway. You have to pity the people buying these intending to keep them stock before waiting for better models to come out.

 

[Telecaster]

Ti at 1430 and 1080 at 2025. 1080 is a good 20-30% faster in the majority of games including 4K. AIB cards at 2.2-2.3ghz, that gap can only increase.

980 ref vs 980 AIB cards. Would be a far better choice currently to compare 980Ti ref vs 1080 ref. Compare AIB 980Ti's to AIB 1080's once released.

http://techreport.com/review/28685/geforce-gtx-980-ti-cards-compared/5

But unless you ramp up the fan and temp target it won't even hold 1780mhz, these AIB cards need to be very good to allow sustained clocks of 2.2ghz+

 

[Kirby Wurm]

But unless you ramp up the fan and temp target it won't even hold 1780mhz, these AIB cards need to be very good to allow sustained clocks of 2.2ghz+

And when they do hold high clocks with higher power targets/temperature limits power consumption increases by a fairly significant margin. Not that it matters to most but there'll be no 180w TDP for high speed 3rd party models.

When the 290/x were known to throttle, EVERY reviewer mentioned it, and/or did a special follow up. I hope the same treatment will be given to this card?

That'll be very telling and I suspect we all know the answer already.

 

[tyler_jrb]

But unless you ramp up the fan and temp target it won't even hold 1780mhz, these AIB cards need to be very good to allow sustained clocks of 2.2ghz+

They should be. 980Ti ref was similar at over 80c on ref with stock fan profile. Hotter than the 1080 is. So I'd expect 3rd party coolers to be on par with current Ti coolers.

A guy put a cheapo cooler on the 1080 which peaked at 67c max load. Not forgetting hybrid and watercooled cards aswell.

I will be waterblocking my cards once EK make blocks for the classified.

 

[Telecaster]

Just don't expect these mega AIB cards to be "$599" lol.

They will make 980ti sli look cheap.

 

[MooMoo444]

Likely still buying 2. Depends on price £550-£600 is my limit. My Ti's were £575. If AIB cards cost a chunk more then no thanks.

Sell my Ti's for £400 ish with blocks. Done some overtime recently so the rest is history

No helicopter yet though

Do you not see it as paying 460 extra for not too much gain over SLI WC 980TI?

 

[h4rm0ny]

I don't know if I'm just being Tin-Foil Hattie, here, but I've been looking through a lot of different sites with benchmarks and I notice in many cases it's not being compared to the 980ti in many cases. Is that Nvidia not wanting people to do this, or just confirmation bias leading me to think I see a pattern?

 

[Jono8]

Interes

I doubt the 1080, even when overclocked, would be noticeably faster in any game

Well from current benchmarks a custom overclocked 1080 at 2.2ghz + will be a good ~25-30% on average faster than your card.

This will no doubt only increase as Pascal drivers mature as well...

 

[Jono8]

And when they do hold high clocks with higher power targets/temperature limits power consumption increases by a fairly significant margin. Not that it matters to most but there'll be no 180w TDP for high speed 3rd party models.

Of course there wont be Just like a 980Ti at 1450mnhz+ is not a 250watt card.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

Of course there wont be Just like a 980Ti at 1450mnhz+ is not a 250watt card.

As I said, not that it matters to most. The most misleading part is the FE being advertised as 180w TDP when to maintain it's boost clocks it has to be set to go above that. Again, not really important but misleading.

 

[fs123]

When the 290/x were known to throttle, EVERY reviewer mentioned it, and/or did a special follow up. I hope the same treatment will be given to this card?

The other thing of interest is the resolution they are using to check for throttling. 1080P is less taxing and chances of throttling should be nil when using vsync but when you move upto 1440P or 4K the gpu works much harder so temperatures will peak much quicker.

I know my MSI Gaming 290X OC can reach the 94C limit in some taxing games @1440P.

Have any 1080 reviews shown temps over time at the higher resolutions?

 

[tyler_jrb]

Do you not see it as paying 460 extra for not too much gain over SLI WC 980TI?

Once I WC them and custom flash them. Should be a good 50-60% over my current 980Ti's.

Sure there will be a cost to upgrade. But should keep me going a while. Possibly until the 1180. Depending on 4K 144hz and 1080Ti price and grunt.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

Aren't these FE cards power limited? The sites that used the hybrid and 3rd party air coolers didn't see significant OC gains from better cooling.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Well from current benchmarks a custom overclocked 1080 at 2.2ghz + will be a good ~25-30% on average faster than your card.

This will no doubt only increase as Pascal drivers mature as well...

A current ref 1080 at 2025 is faster than a 1430 980Ti by 20-30% in every resolution.

 

[andybird123]

Aren't these FE cards power limited? The sites that used the hybrid and 3rd party air coolers didn't see significant OC gains from better cooling.

That appears to be so, but we wont know for sure until AIB card reviews start appearing