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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Drollic said:
Of course it will be. At least with 3rd party cooling. Comparing one of the best 980ti with a good over clock vs a stock 1080 and default cooling is fairly pointless. A lot of people buy these blower cards for sli or to go custom cooled anyway. You have to pity the people buying these intending to keep them stock before waiting for better models to come out.
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Quite. However I imagine 1080Ti classified will be an eye watering price.

I'll wait to see 1080 evga (non Ti) overclocked benchmark results.

It all come down to price to performance ratio for me in the end. I paid £400 for my new sealed 980Ti classy and sold my 780Ti for £250. I think it was worth the upgrade for £150. Would I buy a 1080 for £600 thats similar performance to my £400 980, no I wouldnt. Would I buy a 1080Ti for £400 and sell my 980Ti - Yes
 
Reality|Bites said:
Looks like we may have another FX5800/5900 situation on our hands.
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Not quite, the 1080 does perform well; given you have a very well cooled chassis with adequate airflow with a custom fan profile; don't game for too long, and don't mind the new Mid-High replacement for a GTX 980 costing more than Custom 980TI's did on launch.
 
Sacrifice said:
When the 290/x were known to throttle, EVERY reviewer mentioned it, and/or did a special follow up. I hope the same treatment will be given to this card?
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Wasn't that an issue because it would throttle below the stated speed? IIRC you had to enable the uber BIOS and run the fan at high RPM to keep the stock advertised speed. Where as here we have a card that boosts beyond the stated speed but drops back a bit over time, but is still above the stock advertised speed.

Different situation.
 
1080 will be a great card once it's got a decent cooler on it, computerbase shows that when it's actually tested in a case it throttles with the stock fan after a few minutes actual gameplay. Just enough time to run a benchmark though ;)
 
h4rm0ny said:
I don't know if I'm just being Tin-Foil Hattie, here, but I've been looking through a lot of different sites with benchmarks and I notice in many cases it's not being compared to the 980ti in many cases. Is that Nvidia not wanting people to do this, or just confirmation bias leading me to think I see a pattern?
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It's a replacement for the 980, but in any case you must be blind because every single review site I have looked at had 980ti, and often overlooked versions instead of stock.
 
If these cards are struggling with throttling on a cooler that Nvidia seem pretty proud of for "reference" design, what kind of reference design are they going to need for the 1080ti and above to keep them from throttling?
 
straxusii said:
Seems like the average sustained overclock in the reviews gives the 1080 about a 10% boost to actual framerates, with my TX overclock I get a 20% boost and I suspect the average 980Ti gets around that as well so can't really understand why anyone would ditch a Ti or a TX to jump to a 1080.

Unless of course they just want to play with the new shiny, which I totally understand.
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I am happy with My 980ti g1 with a bios mod thx to Laithan over at overclock . net which gets rid the pref caps and adds extra juice among other things and make the g1 a beast of a card.

This puts on par most results and over with some against the stock 1080

Lets see what the partners come up with there should be some great 1080 cards and will be interesting what sort of factory clocks they send out...but this price :(
 
harney said:
I am happy with My 980ti g1 with a bios mod thx to Laithan over at overclock . net which gets rid the pref caps and adds extra juice among other things and make the g1 a beast of a card.

This puts on par most results and over with some against the stock 1080

Lets see what the partners come up with there should be some great 1080 cards and will be interesting what sort of factory clocks they send out...but this price :(
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At that price not worth the upgrade. Sounds like a great card you have there.
 
straxusii said:
Can't believe the dedicated thread for this video was shut down (probably so it didn't harm 1080 pre orders I guess), it's the most important piece of info to come out of the 1080 reviews.

https://youtu.be/myDYnofz_JE?t=320

So in a decent case the 1080 boost gets massively reduced after a few minutes of gaming but probably won't affect benchmarks.


This is a great slide:
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Real world results over time, given the 1080 seems to get about 10% framerate boost from its overclock that means at 4k it's basically equal to TX, 8% faster than 980Ti and 15% faster than Fury X (erroneously labelled as stock)
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Yes this is very alarming as it seems most of the reviews are open bench tests which will give scew results re boost temps in real life use gameplay ....So it seems having a founders Ed card in a case is going to suffer after only 10 20 mins of game play and the clock drops this is even in a good case...

So the fan profile is way too conserved by the sound of things .....

This kind of info that is vital as i would be really ****ed if i was spending £630+ only to find its declocking its self...

these are the vapour chamber ref cards so god knows what the cheapo plastic standard ones will be like i guess really high on noise then ..
 
Isn't the default fan profile always crap on these things. The same was the case with the 980Ti and Titan X wasn't it? :confused:

Not sure why anyone is surprised that it wont overclock very well on a stock reference blower with no change to the fan profile made inside an enclosed case. That will be the case for almost all graphics cards.

Was everyone expecting to just get one, ramp the clock speed up 400mhz and not have to tweak anything? :confused:

Overclocking is never that easy.
 
meade16 said:
At that price not worth the upgrade. Sounds like a great card you have there.
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At stock bios core B 1491 8000 mem but with with V rel

With bios mod Core B 1555+ 8000mem no caps prefs still testing all this as this is a new 2nd hand card but thus far seems to be handling very well.

will be pushing this more today.

Its performing much better than the other G1 i had which had a way much higher ASIC ... had the same thing with ASIC before with a few 970's i was system building with turned out 1 of the lower one's performed better ...

So i take all this ASIC thing with a grain of salt...
 
harney said:
At stock bios core B 1491 8000 mem but with with V rel

With bios mod Core B 1555+ 8000mem no caps prefs still testing all this as this is a new 2nd hand card but thus far seems to be handling very well.

will be pushing this more today.

Its performing much better than the other G1 i had which had a way much higher ASIC ... had the same thing with ASIC before with a few 970's i was system building with turned out 1 of the lower one's performed better ...

So i take all this ASIC thing with a grain of salt...
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Funny you say this, cause back when i had a pair of 7950 in crossfire(same model from sapphire) the one with lower ASIC overclocked a hell of a lot better than the other(both of air).
 
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