** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[Phixsator]

Clock for clock performance is irrelevant becuase if the processor is designed with a different IPC and clock speed target.

The only thing that matters is Instructions per second. Whether that is achieved by IPC or clock speed is irrelevant

Would argue that clock for clock becomes more relevant if you want to get a better picture of how well the architecture changes are working which is what im interested in. You have to even the playing feel on all other variables to the best of your abilities otherwise the results are misleading.

 

[andybird123]

Would argue that clock for clock becomes more relevant if you want to get a better picture of how well the architecture changes are working which is what im interested in. You have to even the playing feel on all other variables to the best of your abilities otherwise the results are misleading.

but clock speed is a core part of those changes - pascal has been designed to be less dense that it could have at peak to enable it to reach the clocks we are seeing

 

[thenoseknows]

Can't believe the dedicated thread for this video was shut down (probably so it didn't harm 1080 pre orders I guess), it's the most important piece of info to come out of the 1080 reviews.

https://youtu.be/myDYnofz_JE?t=320

One thing I don't agree with is calling it a paper launch. The launch date is 27th May, it says so right in the first second of the video! And it isn't a paper launch unless there are no units available to buy on launch date. The fact that you can't buy it today doesn't mean anything because today is not the 27th May. Is Battlefield 1 a paper launch? They announced it over two weeks ago and still there's no sign of it...

 

[JediFragger]

Just gonna keep quoting this cause my TX runs 1500mhz for 3 hours without dropping a hz which must mean 15% increase over a 1080 @ 2050

Hybrids ftw

 

[Rroff]

One thing I don't agree with is calling it a paper launch. The launch date is 27th May, it says so right in the video! And it isn't a paper launch unless there are no units available to buy on launch date. The fact that you can't buy it today doesn't mean anything because today is not the 27th May. Is Battlefield 1 a paper launch? They announced it over two weeks ago and still there's no sign of it...

Yeah his wording near the start of the video is almost like its the first GPU launch he has experienced lol - nothing particularly that unusual or near the more negative connotations of a paper launch (unless the cards don't actually make it to the shelves on time).

 

[D.P.]

Would argue that clock for clock becomes more relevant if you want to get a better picture of how well the architecture changes are working which is what im interested in. You have to even the playing feel on all other variables to the best of your abilities otherwise the results are misleading.

You are mistaken, as simple as that. You can design a microprocessor with high IPC and low.clocks, or low IPC amd high clocks to get the same IPS. Pascal has moved in the direction on high clocks with lower IPC.

To get an idea of architecture improves consider that TSMC suggest 65% clock speed increase, pascal has achieved that while additionally lowering power consuming by 20%. So 20% is a rough approximation of theoretical chnagws. It is possible realworld.chnagws ate higher depending on what bottlenecks are resolved.

Comparing at equal clock speed is absokutely pointless.

 

[TheRealDeal]

"A paper launch is the situation in which a product is compared or tested against other products of the same kind, despite the fact that it is not available to the public at the time. Generally, the term is applied to the computer and gaming industry, but is not limited to that."

This is a paper launch as we have all those facts before people can buy.

 

[Mayh3M]

Do we know when the aftermarket versions will show up?

 

[JediFragger]

Do we know when the aftermarket versions will show up?

It's hoped that some will show up on the 27th along with the reference design

 

[Mayh3M]

It's hoped that some will show up on the 27th along with the reference design

I really hope so I'm in the process of selling my 980 Tis. The low noise and heat is huge for me, especially with summer coming up.

 

[Tommy_Here]

I really hope so I'm in the process of selling my 980 Tis. The low noise and heat is huge for me, especially with summer coming up.

It's hoped yes, though highly unlikely however I would love for this to be true! a more reasonable expectation is a few weeks after the FE is released still not far away practically when the 1070 is due to launch

 

[tyler_jrb]

Just gonna keep quoting this cause my TX runs 1500mhz for 3 hours without dropping a hz which must mean 15% increase over a 1080 @ 2050

While it sounds good.

That 4% was the GTX 1080 practically at base clock or 1600-1650mhz. Certainly not 2050mhz.

Wait for the 1080 hybrids. Your Titan X will be left for dust

 

[Mayh3M]

It's hoped yes, though highly unlikely however I would love for this to be true! a more reasonable expectation is a few weeks after the FE is released still not far away practically when the 1070 is due to launch

Yeah I think this might be the case. That's why I'm only selling one of my cards.

 

[easyrider]

Wait for the 1080 hybrids. Your Titan X will be left for dust

 

[JediFragger]

Wait for the 1080Ti hybrids. Your Titan X will be left for dust

 

[TheRealDeal]

 

[Simon Belmont]

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles...n_x_oc_utility_for_the_gtx_1080_on_the_27th/1

Right now EVGA's own Precision X page states that EVGA will be making a Founders Edition GTX 1080, a Superclocked, FTW, Classified, Hybrid and Hydro Copper versions of the GPU. At this time, we do not know if they will use the same cooler design as their last generation counterparts or entirely new heatsink designs.

EVGA GTX 1080, Superclocked, FTW, Classified, Hybrid and Hydro Copper versions of the GPU coming. I hope it's on the 27th?

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

Wait for the 1080 hybrids. Your Titan X will be left for dust

I hope so, got the upgrade itch They'll need another 6 pin

 

[tyler_jrb]

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles...n_x_oc_utility_for_the_gtx_1080_on_the_27th/1



EVGA GTX 1080, Superclocked, FTW, Classified, Hybrid and Hydro Copper versions of the GPU coming. I hope it's on the 27th?

Hope so will be 2 SC or classifieds for me. Then EK blocks ASAP

 

[NirK]

While it sounds good.

That 4% was the GTX 1080 practically at base clock or 1600-1650mhz. Certainly not 2050mhz.

Wait for the 1080 hybrids. Your Titan X will be left for dust

I would say 15% over a titan X at 1500mhz vs 1080 2050mhz is about right. A titan X at 1500mhz is a very powerful card.

1080 2050mhz vs 980ti 1450mhz is about 20-25% faster

Titan X 1500mhz is a good 5% faster than 980ti 1450...

So 15-20% probably, depending on game. For some reason some benchmarks I have seen, the titan X is a fair bit faster than 1080, 2 games I saw were wolfenstein TOB and metro, maybe that is a driver or game engine issue not sure. All other games the stock 1080 was about equal to a titan X 1500mhz.