** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[Sasahara]

Based on the £620 price for the GTX 1080 FE I would say the following will be likely: (Rounded up to the nearest £10)

GTX 1080 FE £620+
GTX 1080 £530+
GTX 1070 FE £400+
GTX 1070 £340+

I am wondering what is making the FE cooler $20 cheaper for the GTX 1070 though?

 

[smogsy]

Apparently some systems builders and OEM providers didn't like the fact that a GPU would effectively stop being produced forcing them to buy more expensive non-reference designs. E.g., dell sells computers with a 1080 GPU, they want that same reference card to be available for the lifetime of the GPU at th same price, or lower. Not start selling PCs with a reference GPU and then later switch to a non-reference with different speeds, fans, cooling, size, cost, bios, etc.

So the FE edition should be available for the entire product lifetime.

Very true and most people don't understand how hard switching mid factory run or mid cycle is for large scale businesses. Sometimes months of validation on one product
Then for it to change is very bad for the $. Heck I know a company that validates screws. Yes screws for large scale factory's...

Switching a GPU here's a simple list For a new type of GPU
New thermal testing
New bios procedures
New validation on realiablity
Cost per unit calcs
Re reach factory on procedures
Require new contractors including costs RMA and lifespan

Just a few..

 

[Greebo]

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles...n_x_oc_utility_for_the_gtx_1080_on_the_27th/1



EVGA GTX 1080, Superclocked, FTW, Classified, Hybrid and Hydro Copper versions of the GPU coming. I hope it's on the 27th?

EVGA has already said on its forums that they have cards lined up but not all will be available at the start.

They cant say anymore due to a stupid NDA which I can only think is there so people will be the FE cause they cant wait/don't know whats coming.


IF EVGA had the full list up which 2.2+ boosts listed, nobody would be even looking at a FE edition.

 

[NirK]

Apparently some systems builders and OEM providers didn't like the fact that a GPU would effectively stop being produced forcing them to buy more expensive non-reference designs. E.g., dell sells computers with a 1080 GPU, they want that same reference card to be available for the lifetime of the GPU at th same price, or lower. Not start selling PCs with a reference GPU and then later switch to a non-reference with different speeds, fans, cooling, size, cost, bios, etc.

So the FE edition should be available for the entire product lifetime.

I don't understand that, for example you can still get a reference 980ti now, and it is EOL.

Look.... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-06g-p4-4990-kr-gx-280-ea.html

 

[MrSniper]

Any idea when we will start seen cards from EVGA?

 

[NirK]

Based on the £620 price for the GTX 1080 FE I would say the following will be likely: (Rounded up to the nearest £10)

GTX 1080 FE £620+
GTX 1080 £530+
GTX 1070 FE £400+
GTX 1070 £340+

I am wondering what is making the FE cooler $20 cheaper for the GTX 1070 though?

I will be very happy if I see some good 1080 come out at 550, like MSI 6g or Gigabyte G1 etc.

Its funny how I would now be happy to see a decent 1080 at 550, when I saw the press release etc. I was expecting them to be 500, after seeing the FE, I would be happy with anything with a decent cooler at 550.

But technically $599 MSRP should be 599 x 0.69 x 1.2, which is 496 GBP for bog standard blower. 500-550 for a decent cooler 550-600+ for a xtreme or classified etc.

 

[deFiniLoGy]

I will be very happy if I see some good 1080 come out at 550, like MSI 6g or Gigabyte G1 etc.

Its funny how I would now be happy to see a decent 1080 at 550, when I saw the press release etc. I was expecting them to be 500, after seeing the FE, I would be happy with anything with a decent cooler at 550.

But technically $599 MSRP should be 599 x 0.69 x 1.2, which is 496 GBP for bog standard blower. 500-550 for a decent cooler 550-600+ for a xtreme or classified etc.

Taking the retailer taxes into account, 1080 non-FE should be about 70GBP below the current pricing of the FE version tbh. That makes around min 550GBP for non-FE.

 

[fs123]

I will be very happy if I see some good 1080 come out at 550, like MSI 6g or Gigabyte G1 etc.

Its funny how I would now be happy to see a decent 1080 at 550, when I saw the press release etc. I was expecting them to be 500, after seeing the FE, I would be happy with anything with a decent cooler at 550.

But technically $599 MSRP should be 599 x 0.69 x 1.2, which is 496 GBP for bog standard blower. 500-550 for a decent cooler 550-600+ for a xtreme or classified etc.

The scam worked if now people will be relieved to see custom cards cheaper than £600. They priced high then a small discount looks good.

 

[NirK]

Taking the retailer taxes into account, 1080 non-FE should be about 70GBP below the current pricing of the FE version tbh. That makes around min 550GBP for non-FE.

Yeh well after seeing the FE pre orders... I will be happy to get a good one for 550.

Maybe that is Nvidia's tactic here.... Release the FE at 620, now 500-550 seems low. Even though it is still more than the 980 was on release.

To be fair the 1080 is relatively better than the 980 when it was released and its ok if the replace the 980ti with the 1080. But the FE is too much.

 

[Dirkscooby]

700 quid for the hybrid, I reckon. That's if they go by the MSRP.

 

[harney]

Based on the £620 price for the GTX 1080 FE I would say the following will be likely: (Rounded up to the nearest £10)

GTX 1080 FE £620+
GTX 1080 £530+
GTX 1070 FE £400+
GTX 1070 £340+

I am wondering what is making the FE cooler $20 cheaper for the GTX 1070 though?

I do not think this is the case sry for being -

But this whole founders thing is fishy & is looking like a buffer for the partners to come in high... the only cheap 1080 is looking like the plastic blower.

But eh! i could be wrong if so i will be very surprised and happy for all that's getting one

 

[Sasahara]

I do not think this is the case sry for being -

But this whole founders thing is fishy & is looking like a buffer for the partners to come in high... the only cheap 1080 is looking like the plastic blower.

But eh! i could be wrong if so i will be very surprised and happy for all that's getting one

Well those are my estimated starting prices for the most basic cooler on the non FE versions, maybe I should have made the + like this +.

 

[harney]

I will be very happy if I see some good 1080 come out at 550, like MSI 6g or Gigabyte G1 etc.

Its funny how I would now be happy to see a decent 1080 at 550, when I saw the press release etc. I was expecting them to be 500, after seeing the FE, I would be happy with anything with a decent cooler at 550.

But technically $599 MSRP should be 599 x 0.69 x 1.2, which is 496 GBP for bog standard blower. 500-550 for a decent cooler 550-600+ for a xtreme or classified etc.

Yes i am not sure what they call this kind of sales technique but nvidia are trying it on ...kind of like create a problem give a solution for it ....

Being gob smacked by £630+ then seeing them at £550 is like wow that's a bargain but in reality it should never have even been £550 in the 1st place

 

[Simon Belmont]

Yes i am not sure what they call this kind of sales technique but nvidia are trying it on ...kind of like create a problem give a solution for it ....

Being gob smacked by £630+ then seeing them at £550 is like wow that's a bargain but in reality it should never have been £550 in the 1st place

I don't fall for this, but lots do.

 

[Jono8]

I do not think this is the case sry for being -

But this whole founders thing is fishy & is looking like a buffer for the partners to come in high... the only cheap 1080 is looking like the plastic blower.

But eh! i could be wrong if so i will be very surprised and happy for all that's getting one

Well technically it was supposed to be a buffer so partners could come in LOWER. That is supposedly the point of it, so partners dont have to compete with Nvidia and have a lower MSRP. But we shall see.

 

[~>Dg<~]

no it should start at £400 which is the 980 gtx replacement starting price.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Just have to wait and see what the AIBs come in at, with their overclocked to the max, custom coolers, custom boards, extra power connectors etc...

 

[harney]

Well technically it was supposed to be a buffer so partners could come in LOWER. That is supposedly the point of it, so partners dont have to compete with Nvidia and have a lower MSRP. But we shall see.

Yes...

But there is some thing not right about this whole founders thing and that is what is bothering me

the press video where there getting bombarded about questions re the founders and the way they respond to them is cringe city ..

...So yes will see on the 27th once the partner custom prices are in that's even if they are ...

 

[D.P.]

I don't understand that, for example you can still get a reference 980ti now, and it is EOL.

Look.... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-06g-p4-4990-kr-gx-280-ea.html

Is that an actual reference board manufactured by nvidia, or a board manufactured by EvGA to similar specs to the nvidia reference board? I don't know, but I thought traditionally nvidia only made a limited quantity of reference boards and then after a belie just sold the GPU chip directly to the AIBS. An AIB might then make their base model similar to the reference design of nvidia, but there is no guarantee to that. Which is a problem for an OEM system builder.


Anyway, that is just what I heard on other forums. That is explains partly why there is a name change and a premium price to appease AIBS and system builders. Turns out the FE cooler is not that good and certainly doesn't have a well tuned fan profile.

 

[D.P.]

no it should start at £400 which is the 980 gtx replacement starting price.

Exchange rates are partly to blame for UK prices. The base price is only $50 more the 1080 over the 980, there is around $15-20 of inflation since then so there isn't a big price hike in Us prices if the cards are actually available at $599 soon enough.