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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Stock for stock yeah it's 25-30% faster without a doubt, but that isn't the end all is it, the Ti's overclock nicely the 1080 doesn't and soon down clocks even further. GTA is a silly benchmark cause the game is CPU dependant not GPU "lol". But it's fine with me if you want to keep telling yourself porkies, crack on.
 
Oh god, just seen a very tasty price on a G1 1080. Preordered in the meantime whilst I make my mind up on what to do :D
 
Another clever trick Nvidia are using.

Buy pricing the Titan card every year at silly prices and then smashing the card the next generation with a much cheaper version with the same if not better performance they are generating their own PR.
 
Gregster said:
Is that gimping?
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Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Stock for stock yeah it's 25-30% faster without a doubt, but that isn't the end all is it, the Ti's overclock nicely the 1080 doesn't and soon down clocks even further. GTA is a silly benchmark cause the game is CPU dependant not GPU "lol". But it's fine with me if you want to keep telling yourself porkies, crack on.
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They overclock pretty much the same, the 1080 actually clocks better. Ti boost clock 1075mhz. 1080 boost clock 1733mhz. Ti overclocks to about 14-1500 is the norm. 1080 so far is about 2.1-2.2ghz. +325-425 on the Ti. +377-477 on the 1080.

CPU dependant even though it's the same CPU in both benches? Lol

All the other videos show the Same 20-30% increase. No one is telling porkies. The 1080 IS 20-30% faster than both Ti and TX. Even the 1070 is faster than TX OC vs OC.

Keep telling yourself it isn't :p
 
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That makes sense now, your just guessing

It wont, the bios can't be changed in that way so far, the clocks we've seen seeing is all this card will do. Turns out the 8pin wasn't the problem. I was holding out for the evga hybrid myself but it'll just run cooler, no faster.
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
That makes sense now, your just guessing

It wont, the bios can't be changed in that way so far, the clocks we've seen seeing is all this card will do. Turns out the 8pin wasn't the problem. I was holding out for the evga hybrid myself but it'll just run cooler, no faster.
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That is given info. They did manage 2150-2200 with a hybrid card. It would only do just over 2ghz on air. I've seen some FE cards do over 2.1ghz so far. It will likely come down to chip quality and not voltage like you say.

I've ordered 2 EVGA sc's both to be fully watercooled. Should be nice cards underwater. I'll be happy with 2.1ghz. I'll be trying to get the most out of them as I can though.

Just to add stock bios is 1.088v for a founders. Chip hard lock is 1.25v. I'd fully expect some wiggle room with a custom bios.
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
That makes sense now, your just guessing

It wont, the bios can't be changed in that way so far, the clocks we've seen seeing is all this card will do. Turns out the 8pin wasn't the problem. I was holding out for the evga hybrid myself but it'll just run cooler, no faster.
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Yes you can. If the GPU core is throtling due to hitting the power limit, they reduced the memory clock to free up some power to hit 2202 on the core. Bios mod to raise the power limit and you would be able to put the memory clock back up.

The question then is where you are raising the power limit to are you over stressing the connectors and power circuit. 2200 with +500 on mem should be a good uptick in performance.
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
ROFL, thats made my night, show me one that keeps 1900/2000mhz after 20mins. I'd buy one at 2200mhz. But thanks anyway.
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Some reviewers have managed to hold ~2025MHz on the stock cooling at 100% cycle (power limited) though it seems only the better cards can manage that. Though quite a lot have seen the clocks dropping to around 1900-2000MHz at 100% fan.

According to Tom from nVidia they've had one card that can sustain 2.2GHz (assumedly at 100% fan speed) - that is literally 1 out of how ever many they've been though in testing, etc.
 
What everyone should keep in mind is the actual difference in fps between 2GHz and 2.1GHz is minuscule on Pascal. I guess if you love to benchmark then every point counts though.
 
straxusii said:
So to be clear that's sustained 2.1ghz in a gaming session in a case right? And without a crazy loud fan profile.

No, thought not
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Didn't say nothing about them not using a loud fan profile. Fact is FE cards can do 2.1ghz. Like it or not.

The main problem is voltage. Even the hybrid nexus card did not hit its 120% power draw at 2.2ghz. They did however have to drop the memory down to free up a little voltage for the core.

Custom bios will allow both more power and voltage to sustain that 2.2ghz+ under water.
 
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Didn't say nothing about them not using a loud fan profile. Fact is FE cards can do 2.1ghz. Like it or not.

The main problem is voltage. Even the hybrid nexus card did not hit its 120% power draw at 2.2ghz. They however had to drop the memory down to free up a little voltage for the core.

Custom bios will allow both more power and voltage to sustain that 2.2ghz+ under water.
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Well that's all great and dandy from a benchers point of view. Not looking as good from a gamers and a practical point of view is it? A 980ti can also do 2GHZ aslwell fact is it can do it. :rolleyes:
 
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