Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[dazzerd]

Everybody lied as nobody has a clue wtf is going to happen.

People as happens (rightly or wrongly) voted on their passions and we have the result we have which must be respected.

As much as fear of the unknown is expected we must be realistic and realise there is enough talent and nouse for this country to survive and thrive outside of the EU should it choose too.

I suspect what may happen however is that there will be a GE in spring next year where we will have two political divides ones with a vision of how and what the UK will negotiate for in the new relationhsip with the EU and another group who simply says we will ignore the referendum and stay as is.

It wouldn't suprise me to see some strange coalitions next year to keep Britain in the EU (i.e. moderate tories with labour). Watch this space I can see it happening.

 

[Buckster]

Ridiculous. Sick of sore losers. If it was the other way they wouldnt support this.

Them signatures are probably from kids.

probably

what you mean the 18-30 year olds to which the vote effected them most

 

[i know nothing]

It now has 955,394 signatures, MPs that support Remain far outweigh the ones that dont, very like this could be pushed through.

Except, it can't and it won't be. Not how democracy works.

 

[Worthy]

It now has 955,394 signatures, MPs that support Remain far outweigh the ones that dont, very like this could be pushed through.

This wasn't some petition to get Jamie Vardy on the cover of crisp packets. Those online petitions are mainly for ideas the public want to get discussed in Parliament, not for EU referendums offered by the Government. There's no way a second referendum will take place.

 

[Regy53]

It now has 955,394 signatures, MPs that support Remain far outweigh the ones that dont, very like this could be pushed through.

I voted leave and i would welcome a second vote.

1, To try and rally the 28% of people who did not vote to vote
2, To hopefully get the results to be further apart i.e not 48% vs 52% because the divide is just so much. It was ridiculously close really and there for there is and will be disagreements for many many years. We are not united, you basically disagree with every other person over something so serious.

 

[Freakbro]

We will see won't we?

We will

I would have voted remain if the EU wasn't so stubborn on immigration. The current model is not sustainable and what are your views on fixing that if we voted remain?

Since this free movement is a fundamental rule of the single market, you're right I don't think it is on the table for negotiation. If it is sustainable in its current form? I don't know if it is or not and we've all had huge debates over it. I think a lot of scaremongering has been done about immigration and I also think the localised problems immigration has brought haven't ever been addressed.

I just wonder if anything will change if we end up staying in the single market, so what did we leave for.

The suggestion is you can freely move to another country with a condition you had a strong job offer low or high skilled.
Freedom of travel to other EU countries would not be affected but I think time limits on visiting those countries should be introduced.
Freedom of study in other EU countries works to be fair.

None of that sounds unreasonable to me and I would be just as happy to see that implemented as what we have now.

 

[Gilly]

We still pay in more than we get out. You're right though, it'll probably balance out. Depends what happens with the trade deals.

Oh I know we pay more in than we get back, what I mean is that we're not going to save anything through this choice - even if you take out the weakening of the economy I doubt there'd be any savings. Add that in and we're much worse off financially. Anyone voting out for financial reasons needs to revisit the calculator.

 

[Destination]

Hopefully there is a second vote

I very much hope not, it would add to the uncertainty of the whole process, at least now, Europe is on the side of stability, wants to sort things, and swiftly, and the rest of the world is watching, it is the best opportunity to mitigate the situation by simply dealing with it now, united.
Rather than this utter tard-dom of asking for another vote.
We voted it, we got a result, now deal with the mess it generates.

 

[Fiocca]

I'm ashamed to say I'm in the out but now regret it camp, I think there are probably a hell of a lot more of us too...

 

[Buckster]

Except, it can't and it won't be. Not how democracy works.

democracy works - it was only a poll after all

they can reign in on it

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

Everybody lied as nobody has a clue wtf is going to happen.

People as happens (rightly or wrongly) voted on their passions and we have the result we have which must be respected.

As much as fear of the unknown is expected we must be realistic and realise there is enough talent and nouse for this country to survive and thrive outside of the EU should it choose too.

I suspect what may happen however is that there will be a GE in spring next year where we will have two political divides ones with a vision of how and what the UK will negotiate for in the new relationhsip with the EU and another group who simply says we will ignore the referendum and stay as is.

It wouldn't suprise me to see some strange coalitions next year to keep Britain in the EU (i.e. moderate tories with labour). Watch this space I can see it happening.

The EU don't want Britain anymore after Britain said it didn't want the EU

 

[Roar87]

It now has 955,394 signatures, MPs that support Remain far outweigh the ones that dont, very like this could be pushed through.

Unless you get more than half the country to sign it I don't think it's going to matter

I'm ashamed to say I'm in the out but now regret it camp, I think there are probably a hell of a lot more of us too...

If you didn't expect initial drops in the stockmarket you're not very well informed. *ANY* big events will trigger the exact same thing, wars, the threat of war, big terrorist attacks like 9/11, any sort of uncertainity will affect stock markets. It doesn't mean they won't recover. There's nothing fundamentally differently about the UK, we're all still going to work and doing the same things we did before.

 

[Dave]

Hopefully there is a second vote

Why? So that we can keep voting until we get "the right result", as Ireland had to do for the Lisbon Treaty?

Much as I enjoy wasting time and money and having months of volatility in the markets, it's really not a sensible thing to do. We made our bed, and now we lie in it.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

Typical english leaver voters:

In Barnsley, 70% of the population voted to leave the European Union.
In their own words, here’s why.

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10153842562976939/

 

[Freakbro]

It seems more of a vote against the establishment in general rather than an out vote.

Yea, I heard one leaver today say they voted out because they were sick of the austerity we have had by the Tories....

 

[dowie]

It now has 955,394 signatures, MPs that support Remain far outweigh the ones that dont, very like this could be pushed through.

delusional, we've got the result it is now up to Parliament to digest it - there won't be a second referendum and we will be leaving the EU - that much is abundantly clear

Though given the size of the remain vote they probably do need to explore any available options on offer for maintaining close trade links to the EU (while being mindful that free movement was a big issue for leave)

 

[i know nothing]

democracy works - it was only a poll after all

they can reign in on it

No, the referendum wasn't the Eurovision song contest.

 

[Raikiri]

Except, it can't and it won't be. Not how democracy works.

Except it can, because that's what you're talking about is direct democracy. Which we don't have.

 

[The Running Man]

It was a protest vore.

All these do gooders talijg about the benefits of unmetered immigration. All asking for more somalian refugees to be housed.

But will never see a somalian refugee walk the streets in their home town. Wgy does Oldham, Manchester, Liverpool get them? If the government wants immigrants and refugees, why don't the house them in leafy Oxfordshire? Why will they never be impacted by Romanian beggars?

Why don't their home towns have 23% Muslim population?

Why do they tell us to embrace diversity and live in their own enclaves that are unaffected by the above?

That's what people are sick to the back teeth of abd sadly this was the only way they have been a able to vocalise this in 20 years.

 

[Kanpai]

LOL what?

People are still in denial, if it had gone the other way would you expect a second vote?

it was a binary choice and we've got the result

No, it's clearly evident a lot of those who voted leave simply had no idea what they were voting for and the consequences, with a lot of it only kicking in after the results.

The most common reason for people voting leave was they somehow thought it would control immigration and stop 'migrants' from taking their jobs which is absurd, or thinking they will be better off with British independence somewhat, without fully understanding the consequences of an EU exit.

Hopefully that petition is passed in parliament and we have a 2nd referendum vote.