Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

How did you vote in the EU Referendum?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 861 53.0%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 763 47.0%

  • Total voters
    1,624
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It was a protest vote.

All these do gooders talking about the benefits of unmetered immigration. All asking for more somalian refugees to be housed.

But will never see a somalian refugee walk the streets in their home town. Why does Oldham, Manchester, Liverpool get them? If the government wants immigrants and refugees, why don't the house them in leafy Oxfordshire? Why will they never be impacted by Romanian beggars?

Why don't their home towns have 23% Muslim population?

Why do they tell us to embrace diversity and live in their own enclaves that are unaffected by the above?

That's what people are sick to the back teeth of and sadly this was the only way they have been a able to vocalise this in 20 years.
 
48% of 72% of people voted only equals roughly 34-35% of UK populace actually voted to leave. Also the fact that Nigel Farage went on record to say the big red bus stating £350million to the NHS was a "mistake" people are ****ed off... and a lot of people who vote to leave and now regretting that vote ( NOT ALL... just some ) probably enough to swing the vote the other way.

You also have that a lot of people who would have been quite happy to remain simply didnt vote.

AND you have people who are bitter about the result.

Cool in that case if the petition reaches 17 million then it's only fair we hold another referendum.

Yes only 35% of the population voted to leave, even less than that voted to stay.
 
[FnG]magnolia;29687469 said:
Unless I've missed something though, that's it - decision made, game over, wonder where it all went wrong. The EU want the UK out and quickly (not sure Article 50 demands up to 2 years or just allows for it) and there appear to be no second chances.

I think it's min 2 max 6 years to do the negotiations to leave
 
Interesting that the poll on this thread is to remain, did any other poll prior to the vote come to that conclusion?
Has a choice been made by a protest vote?

So far Ford and Airbus are talking of job losses, Morgan Stanley say they will move 2000 jobs to Europe. The pound plummeted, shares plummeted. France want to open the flood gates at Calais releasing all the refugees/immigrants. The UK credit rating has been cut, interest rates to rise?

Farage says the Leave campaign lied over the so called £350 million, Boris now wants to cool down and be friends with Europeans. Europe want us gone quickly, Scotland want to split again.

Graphics cards have risen in price, petrol, I'm sure, will follow.

Employers with large groups of EU workers are having to deal with distraught staff.

Wales realises it was actually a beneficiary of the EU, Cornwall asks for more money.

I know those may all be short term effects but I find them a bit worrying, can anyone come up with a ray of sunshine to make me feel better?
Andi.
 
It now has 955,394 signatures, MPs that support Remain far outweigh the ones that dont, very like this could be pushed through.

Surely that petition could get 15m+ quite easily since that's how many voted to stay :p

We've had a legal vote.... it has to stand

What happens next? We re-vote and the remain wins by a couple of %? And then the leave campaigners do the same thing, rinse and repeat? We're in a democracy, respect the process or go find another country with another ideology to live in!

And all this rubbish about baby boomers having ruined it for the millennials... who gives a flying ****? I'm 29, I voted out. My brothers are 23 and 26 respectively and they voted out. It's a bloody democratic process.

The leave voters have won, we believe it will have a positive net effect and the losing side need to accept this and move on.
 
Is that in the same way a lot of the Leave voters on here knew they would never win the vote? (Because the 'establishment' wouldn't let it happen)

You don't know that at all, you may think it, but that is far far from reality

I'm sorry and I don't want to appear rude, but that is just tin foil hat thinking.


I think a lot of people are so disillusioned with the political system that they believed their vote would be meaningless as "nothing ever changes". It became a vote against arrogant Cameron and the very negative campaign they ran whilst overseeing a decline of the UK infrastructure, services, and culture. It was a gamble in order to put pressure on the EU, and Cameron lost that gamble. He used a referendum as a promise to help him get into power, yet didn't know the answer he would get years down the line.

The arrogance of the EU (eg Junckers comments), inability to control borders despite claiming they could, attempts to fast-track Turkey's membership despite the economic mess made of Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Spain and Portugal, etc. These all created dissatisfaction with the EU, and yet nothing was changed to accommodate improvement.

A very complex problem reduced to leave/stay, leveraged for political advantage, ended up being nothing but an emotive, poorly understood decision on all sides. Best to get on with it and figure our way forwards.
 
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I would welcome a general election in the near future where one of the parties made a manifesto pledge to cancel the out vote. Assuming they were elected they would have a mandate to do this without a second referendum. This appears to be the angle the lib dems are playing.

I don't know many out voters but those I do know are currently regretting it. Mainly because their summer holidays will now be more expensive unless the currency rises.
 
The magic £350m didn't exist. Not only did the EU pile money back into the UK (they're funding the regeneration of Hull like they did Liverpool, and we've all seen the Cornish appeal to the UK government in lieu of the EU standing payment) but we already had a rebate in place that reduces the initial payment by a third and has done since the 80s.

I guess that does show how good the leave campaign propaganda was. I had this figure stuck in my head

It's irrelevant now. I think we will be net poorer. Rather than this.. We will get X amount of money back that we gave to the eu

As time goes on more and more people will begin to regret their decision. Particular if cost of living goes up.

I wish the European wouldwould have bent a little more to uks original immigration demands, I wish Merkel had never exacerbated the issue with the Syrians, I wish politics listened more to the people. I wish the remain campaign wasn't all aboutabout negatives

With this vote so on a knife edge. Any one of these may have kept us in

It's a series ofdecisions, arrogance and delusional thinking

Any other countries should wait, and see if we truly do fall apart. Welcome to being the Guinea pig

I also believe farage didn't expect and maybe didn't want to win it. Its a cushy job being leader of ukip. If he does come to be prime minister or something I think people will become even more apathetic. All this golden age of Britain talking.. I don't see it.

Cannot fathom how we are going to be better off. We will still need immigration as people still won't do the menial jobs, our growth will be as before at BEST. Our credit rating will deteriorate. Scotland may leave. Cost of living up. I could go on

So much potential negative. The only positive.. We can control immigration? Crazy
 
We will see won't we?

I would have voted remain if the EU wasn't so stubborn on immigration. The current model is not sustainable and what are your views on fixing that if we voted remain?

The suggestion is you can freely move to another country with a condition you had a strong job offer low or high skilled.
Freedom of travel to other EU countries would not be affected but I think time limits on visiting those countries should be introduced.
Freedom of study in other EU countries works to be fair.

I think this sort of utter mess is where I do not wish to see us placed, strong direct guidance. Rather than come over with a strong offer of a job? Would this just be for EU? Or for some countries in the EU? Or for anyone from anywhere?
Who would administer this checking process of 'what constitutes a strong offer'?
You are aware of the shadow universities that brought loads of 'alleged' students to the UK, took years to catch on to those scams. Do you seriously think the civil service in the UK is remotely capable of sorting out a 'job offer' process?

Mess mess mess
We voted to leave, just get on with it, rather than wishy washy all the mess inbetween now.
Everyone in the leave camp is diluting everything they said.
Basically heading for slightly stronger things than were offered to Cameron.
Utter mess.
 
All these people calling for a second vote lol,Seriously why should those 28% of people who did not vote (because they could not be bothered when they had chance) now be given a second chance to vote?

They knew when they had to vote,yet they didn't.
 
Interesting that the poll on this thread is to remain, did any other poll prior to the vote come to that conclusion?
Has a choice been made by a protest vote?

So far Ford and Airbus are talking of job losses, Morgan Stanley say they will move 2000 jobs to Europe. The pound plummeted, shares plummeted. France want to open the flood gates at Calais releasing all the refugees/immigrants. The UK credit rating has been cut, interest rates to rise?

Farage says the Leave campaign lied over the so called £350 million, Boris now wants to cool down and be friends with Europeans. Europe want us gone quickly, Scotland want to split again.

Graphics cards have risen in price, petrol, I'm sure, will follow.

Employers with large groups of EU workers are having to deal with distraught staff.

Wales realises it was actually a beneficiary of the EU, Cornwall asks for more money.

I know those may all be short term effects but I find them a bit worrying, can anyone come up with a ray of sunshine to make me feel better?
Andi.

With all due respect, all the negatives you posted above are conjecture at this stage.. some may come to effect, some may not come to effect. However there will be positives in the other direction.

Glass half full / glass half empty comes to mind.
 
my crystal ball tells me that once a new PM is sworn in, he/she will call a general election before invoking article 50, then one of their campaign pledges will be to not invoke article 50 and stay im the EU :o
could they do that or would the EU just kick us out in 2 years anyway?
 
I think it's min 2 max 6 years to do the negotiations to leave

2 years from the time article 50 is implemented.
it can be extended to a maximum of 6 if every eu country agrees, I cant see that happening at all. they want us gone asap or to go back on our choice. either we I cant see every country agreeing to an extension.
 
People should be able to vote for what they believe in, not because of peer pressure and ostracization. The majority has spoken and voted to leave.
 
my crystal ball tells me that once a new PM is sworn in, he/she will call a general election before invoking article 50, then one of their campaign pleges will be to not invoke article 50 and stay im the EU :o
could they do that or would the EU just kick us out in 2 years anyway?

I think you are likely correct
 
No, it's clearly evident a lot of those who voted leave simply had no idea what they were voting for and the consequences, with a lot of it only kicking in after the results.

The most common reason for people voting leave was they somehow thought it would control immigration and stop 'migrants' from taking their jobs which is absurd, or thinking they will be better off with British independence somewhat, without fully understanding the consequences of an EU exit.

Hopefully that petition is passed in parliament and we have a 2nd referendum vote.

utterly delusional, in fact you're being as delusional as the leave voters you're criticizing... this was made so clear and really isn't hard to understand - there won't be a second referendum, this referendum is it - that was clear before the vote and doesn't change afterwards because you don't like the result and you've seen an interview with some thick people from Barnsley who voted leave
 
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