Non-EEA immigrants at least have to go through a rigorous process to get into the country, restricting that would be very damaging
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Non-EEA immigrants at least have to go through a rigorous process to get into the country, restricting that would be very damaging
Good thing we already abide by everything anyway... what a shock.
That now must be delivered on or face revolt. All that was promised must be delivered.
i meant exports not economy, i changed it after i posted it when i noticed. And i am talking about tariffs etc, they are likely to give us a good deal as it affects a fair chunk of their exports which has a knock on with their economy.
Basically the same as every General Election then. The Tories promised sub 100k immigration, that hasn't happened, do we get a second GE?
I'm not sure what you're saying there. Are you saying that no leavers voted due to immigration? No no leave voters chose that due to the bandying around of the £350m a week total?
Absolutely. Reading it, it seems like its a last resort clause after you have exhausted pretty much every other avenue. I think you would have to prove that you have extensively invested in infrastructure and that it was still failing before you stood a chance of activating it (you might stand a better chance on environmental impact)
All that aside Article 113.2.0 and 113.3.0 basically says that the actual decision rests with the EEA Joint Committee, IE they will simply LOL you out of the room
How it actually works is you vote for people to look at issues properly and take responsibility.
When you get people with no responsibility to vote directly on an issue you get all kinds of illogical bias crawling out of the woodwork.
Let me put it another way, who exactly would vote for tax rises?
And so we get "Brexit" fuelled by a massive steaming pile of bizzare reasons.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/eu-referendum/73775/is-the-eu-referendum-result-legally-binding
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ng-brexit-lisbon-cameron-sovereign-parliament
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_the_United_Kingdom
Go educate yourself a little then come back and tell me it's legally binding.
You don't need to argue the 2nd referendum point with me
We weren't able to reduce immigration due to the EU state membership requirements and either we'll pay tariffs or we'll still be in the same position in future...
You overestimate what 8% of exports is worth.
A good deal for the UK has other serious consequences for Germany. It isn't as black and white as that.
Germany might even believe that their goods are good enough that the UK will pay extra even with trade barriers and German exports don't actually decrease very much.
Also the lost export cost is mitigated by the fact that it is possible that the 92% other importers can increase how much they import if Germany drops the prices a little for them (within the trade arrangements they have, the EU which obviously has zero barriers).
Whilst UK exports which are primarily in services, are one of the most mobile industries available which can move within the EU over time to avoid additional costs of trade.
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The reasons dont matter, you dont even need one in a democracy... its not a difficult concept to understand.
seriously?
Yes.
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A lot of leave voters are extremely upset by that. I posted this yesterday but seems apt here again. Someone from my whatsapp
And then being shown that video from ITV
There's voters out there genuinely banking on that £350 million to improve their lives!!
There cannot be another one unless there is a mandate from Westminster, plus the SNP don't have a majority in the SP.
I would think that the vote would be larger to stay in the Union than the last time.
Here is my opinion on the whole 'age' thing..
There are two key factors I consider
1. Generational experience/knowledge.. this is a factor, e.g. someone really old may remember the impact of post war britain and so never really trust the 'europeans' due to that 'experience'.. where as younger people have grown up absolutely side by side with europeans.. You could say that these almost offset each other to some degree..
2. Ability to make decisions. for this, you can only consider an individual, there is no point comparing yourself to your grandmother.. Just look at how any individual grows with age, they gain more knowledge and experience and make better decisions as a result.. this is why people progress in careers, they get more experience of the bigger picture, they've got experiences to draw on that make then not over-react etc..
So, I would say that the reality is that the relative naivety of youth is offset by the doggedness of really old people based on generational knowledge.
The middle ground is then the true age related experience of making balanced decisions, which no doubt explains why the 30-50 camp are far more 'balanced'.. which IMO reflects the subject perfectly, their is no 'right answer', Europe is not perfect, and neither is pulling out of Europe, but experience and wisdom dictate that we won't crash into oblivion either..
Just consider this,
If everyone was better at making these far reaching decisions aged 18-24, then the world would be upside down, you'd have all world leaders, CEO's and prominent leaders being aged 18-24 , and they'd slowly get demoted as their ability to make decisions in the current world diminished.. However, despite the notion that old people are hapless as a generalisation, why is it, that people are generally 'older' when they are trusted to make better decisions?
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