That's entirely up to Scotland and Northern Ireland, if they want to destroy the UK then it's their choice.
I wonder what we would be called afterwards?
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Just flicking through the news this morning and it looks like the EU are showing their hand a bit already. They have mentioned Switzerland and Norway type agreements. Obviously this comes down to what is negotiated but this is very positive!
Good thing we already abide by everything anyway... what a shock.
That's entirely up to Scotland and Northern Ireland, if they want to destroy the UK then it's their choice.
I wonder what we would be called afterwards?![]()
Here is my opinion on the whole 'age' thing..
There are two key factors I consider
1. Generational experience/knowledge.. this is a factor, e.g. someone really old may remember the impact of post war britain and so never really trust the 'europeans' due to that 'experience'.. where as younger people have grown up absolutely side by side with europeans.. You could say that these almost offset each other to some degree..
2. Ability to make decisions. for this, you can only consider an individual, there is no point comparing yourself to your grandmother.. Just look at how any individual grows with age, they gain more knowledge and experience and make better decisions as a result.. this is why people progress in careers, they get more experience of the bigger picture, they've got experiences to draw on that make then not over-react etc..
So, I would say that the reality is that the relative naivety of youth is offset by the doggedness of really old people based on generational knowledge.
The middle ground is then the true age related experience of making balanced decisions, which no doubt explains why the 30-50 camp are far more 'balanced'.. which IMO reflects the subject perfectly, their is no 'right answer', Europe is not perfect, and neither is pulling out of Europe, but experience and wisdom dictate that we won't crash into oblivion either..
Just consider this,
If everyone was better at making these far reaching decisions aged 18-24, then the world would be upside down, you'd have all world leaders, CEO's and prominent leaders being aged 18-24 , and they'd slowly get demoted as their ability to make decisions in the current world diminished.. However, despite the notion that old people are hapless as a generalisation, why is it, that people are generally 'older' when they are trusted to make better decisions?
How it actually works is you vote for people to look at issues properly and take responsibility.
When you get people with no responsibility to vote directly on an issue you get all kinds of illogical bias crawling out of the woodwork.
Let me put it another way, who exactly would vote for tax rises?
And so we get "Brexit" fuelled by a massive steaming pile of bizzare reasons.
Yes.
The number of butthurt Leavers on Facebook after realising that Farage and Hannam lied about their promises on NHS funding and immigration is just spectacular.
Little Britain.
Wales might as well leave the UK as well, they get more money from the EU.
ok.
Man.
So for the 40% of Leave voters that voted Leave (who were fed up of Tories (but you know this). That must leave 10% just on hate alone?
I don't buy it.
It was the official leave campaign that made posters talking about the 350million and saying that it could be spent on the NHS.
Farage was never part of the official leave campaign nor did he make those claims, he did say that the money spent on the EU could be reinvested in the uk.
I asked you a simple question and I don't feel that you've answered it. You're the only one that has mentioned hate.
Question: were any of the leave voters voting leave because of immigration or the £350m a week figures?
I don't think people are that stupid tbh.
It's funny the leave campaign talk about extremists, but they came out with the most outrageous lies.
That advert was horrendous.
The reasons dont matter, you dont even need one in a democracy... its not a difficult concept to understand.