Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Raymond Lin]

The general public are stupid.

They would much rather watch whether Rhianna bleached her roots than David Cameron talk on EU legislations (yes I know that isn't a test for intelligence). They simply don't understand the wider consequence.

 

[muon]

I don't understand why people are focusing on Farage so much.

I want to see how many of the pledges Boris will live up to.

- £350m a week to the NHS.

- Cutting 5% VAT on energy.

- Maintaining existing EU subsidies.

- Cutting immigration by using a points based system (i.e. not join the EEA).

All while the UK economy slows down for several years (before one can only hope, recovers soon afterwards). Borrowing rates increase because of the increased volatility and downside risk to the UK economy.

 

[Kenai]

That gif ought to result in a swing and a miss with the UK falling in the water

 

[Mauller]

That's not really the point being made though, if he could turn around hours after the result and say 'Well that was obviously a mistake' then why not say so during the campaigning?

He knew it was wrong, has admitted as much but deliberately never questioned it. He's just as complicit in the deception as any of the rest of them, regardless of whether it would be his responsibility to actually implement any change.

He was campaigning his own points for leaving, he had his own work to do. The whole point is that the media are demonising him as though it was his pledge and his fault. when he had nothing to do with the official leave campaign and the official campaign was even distancing itself from him. The media can't then turn around and make out that he was a part of it.

he was saying all along that the money sent to the EU can be reinvested.

 

[Arazi]

http://www.theweek.co.uk/eu-referendum/73775/is-the-eu-referendum-result-legally-binding

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ng-brexit-lisbon-cameron-sovereign-parliament

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_the_United_Kingdom

Go educate yourself a little then come back and tell me it's legally binding.

Where have i said it is legal or not?

I said it was a legal democratic vote, one side won, there won't be a re-vote, well not one in the form people are trying to put across in here and the media (as in the aww poor me, it is not fair we have left the EU), the petition is laughable.

Oh and if your stupid comment about Cameron saying "LOL NO" in his speech or any form of ignoring the result would then split the UK even further and there would be revolt, so the petition calling for a re-vote would never happen, not in the form as i have said above, in brackets.

We may be allowed to re-vote if the EU\UK sometime in the future decide on drastic changes, if not, no re-vote.

 

[Tosno]

This thread is the best thread I have ever enjoyed reading here (the worst being about someone placing a plastic bag and taking photos of it) So many salty liberal tears! All the remainers just can't understand things not going their way, and the frustration building up in them, the only way they can let steam off is dreaming of a second vote (wont happen) and laughing at dopey people and scared betas regretting their vote less than 24 hours later (which happens at every election on both sides) Being against old people voting leave (even though no one really knows how they voted as the poll is private, could even be upside down like what happened to this forums poll)

Sorry guys, all you can do about is organise a few anti-racism protests and call the uneducated racist.

 

[Puzzled]

Depressing to see that our government was so blinkered to the fact that leave might win, you'd think (and I still hold hope they have) that at least some preparation would have been undertaken.

Hopefully going into next week we'll start to see some positive action coming out of Westminster and people will see this as an opportunity to quash the right wing (no need for Farage or UKIP now ) and implement real change.

Yes there is a lot of work to be done but I truly believe that if we didn't leave now it would be coming in the near future, we've constantly been trying to change the EU but the things we disagree with are part of the founding principles so it was never going to happen. Maybe it we had spearheaded the union when Churchill suggested it things would be very different today, but we didn't and we've always been on the back foot since.

 

[Roar87]

Well I think devolution of regions should increase now and London should get to keep more of it's money. Leaving the EU will affect London disproportionately more than anywhere else.

Then the other regions can balance their books.

That's cool, can they pay the rest of the country back the money we're all owed for the economy collapsing in 2008? I mean literally give the rest of the us the money straight into our bank accounts that we lost when people were made redundant or there were no jobs to apply for

 

[Housey]

That's fair enough. I'm glad you saw that.

Many of the voters on each side of the referendum didn't understand what that was about either, mostly down to the lies and misinformation provided by the propaganda machines on either side. That's the entire point I'm making.

Most didn't and that's the main issue. We have leave campaigners being positioned as the under class bigots and the remain as the erudite middle classes. We then have argument based on "well it's dem immigrants" or "it was all roses and could only work if we remain and now you've broken it and it will be impossible to live anymore" and both are massively wrong.

That is this thread and it's wrong. We have stopped the train and that is going to create pain and pain is what's needed. The fact that we had 40% of the under 25's disengaged is a massive problem as they are our future. Your voice is not worthy if you don't stand up and if this wake up call engages them then this is positive.

 

[Locky]

Would this happening be far from the truth?

Vote to leave won, Cameron resigns, in a few years a general election comes and the new government ignores the leave vote and say oh that was the previous government's referendum..

 

[CREATIVE!11]

So many salty liberal tears!

Grow up.

 

[Nitefly]

This thread is the best thread I have ever enjoyed reading here (the worst being about someone placing a plastic bag and taking photos of it) So many salty liberal tears! All the remainers just can't understand things not going their way, and the frustration building up in them, the only way they can let steam off is dreaming of a second vote (wont happen) and laughing at dopey people and scared betas regretting their vote less than 24 hours later (which happens at every election on both sides) Being against old people voting leave (even though no one really knows how they voted as the poll is private, could even be upside down like what happened to this forums poll)

Sorry guys, all you can do about is organise a few anti-racism protests and call the uneducated racist.

... and be rightfully cross when it's demonstrable voting to leave was a cosmic mistake.

 

[balky12]

I love the some of the remain camp atm. Cry babies. Demanding a 2nd referendum? Not how a democracy works. Let's move the goalposts and apply it retrospectively! Basically democracy is great but only if I get what i want.-

'Leave voters are racists, xenophobes, stupid, sun readers, etc. etc.'

'Older generation has ****** this country' - you mean the same generation that fought so we can have a democracy? Also voting is anonymous, so it's purely speculation who voted what.

Then all the moans about the markets and currency collapsing. So you're going to get a few Euros less for you lads on tour Magaluf weekend bender?

I don't get the Farage hate either. I'm personally not a fan of his and I get the whole NHS slogan thing, but if you voted based on that one slogan then you're a moron. Also he isn't even in power?

Makes for some good reading.

 

[Raikiri]

Where have i said it is legal or not?

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I said it was a legal democratic vote,

 

[Greebo]

can't believe we've effectively voted on a wing and a prayer

unlike general election etc - can anyone actually point me in a direction of a document that states what we've actually voted for ?

as in a plan ? detailed manifesto etc ?

surely people didn't just vote as "sounds ok"

Nope. It would appear some people voted so there wouldnt be England playing in any more Euro championships...................

 

[muon]

That's cool, can they pay the rest of the country back the money we're all owed for the economy collapsing in 2008? I mean literally give the rest of the us the money straight into our bank accounts that we lost when people were made redundant or there were no jobs to apply for

Which year exactly did London get subsidised?

I'd like to see those numbers, because I can guarantee there is none. Loans were given to banks, which whilst concentrated in London apply across the country. These loans have almost all been paid back with interest.

I think what you will find is that the money injected into banks (the only money that hasn't been paid back yet) is actually paying for branches across the country. The values of which collapsed in the wake of this referendum.

But again, sentiment seems to rule over actual details.

 

[CREATIVE!11]

'Older generation has ****** this country' - you mean the same generation that fought so we can have a democracy? Also voting is anonymous, so it's purely speculation who voted what.

Baby boomers, the same generation that also kicked the ladder away for the rest of us after taking the lions share.

Then they further think they need to **** things up more and voted to leave, so great, we have 60 year old fossils with archaic mindsets deciding the future of the country for the younger generation.

 

[Kenai]

The fact that we had 40% of the under 25's disengaged is a massive problem as they are our future. Your voice is not worthy if you don't stand up and if this wake up call engages them then this is positive.

Will it do that though, or will it just engender more of 'what's the point, old people just ruin it all anyway' attitude in the 60% that did bother? That's my worry.

 

[Superficial]

Most didn't and that's the main issue. We have leave campaigners being positioned as the under class bigots and the remain as the erudite middle classes. We then have argument based on "well it's dem immigrants" or "it was all roses and could only work if we remain and now you've broken it and it will be impossible to live anymore" and both are massively wrong.

That is this thread and it's wrong. We have stopped the train and that is going to create pain and pain is what's needed. The fact that we had 40% of the under 25's disengaged is a massive problem as they are our future. Your voice is not worthy if you don't stand up and if this wake up call engages them then this is positive.

Well said.

I am stunned at the direction this thread has turned to...some kind of Pro EU circle-jerk.

 

[Freakbro]

I said it was a legal democratic vote, one side won, there won't be a re-vote, well not one in the form people are trying to put across in here and the media (as in the aww poor me, it is not fair we have left the EU), the petition is laughable.

You mean the same second referendum Farage called for when he thought they were going to lose

(And for the record i personally think it's a ridiculous idea)