Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Roar87]

not sure if this has already been mentioned as this threads pretty fast moving, but have we heard anything from IDS "the quiet man" recently?
he seemed very pro leave a few months ago, not seen a word from him since

I think the Leave campaign realised he probably wasn't a persona to attract votes.

 

[scorza]

not sure if this has already been mentioned as this threads pretty fast moving, but have we heard anything from IDS "the quiet man" recently?
he seemed very pro leave a few months ago, not seen a word from him since

He was the first Leave spokesman they had on the BBC's referendum programme on Thursday night. I went to bed after that. I'm sure he's still knocking around doing what politicians do.

 

[Jono8]

Then kiss goodbye to trading with the EU.

Indeed. We simply wont get one without the other.

 

[Janesy B]

More than likely people trying to bolster the numbers by voting multiple times on it from the same location.

If it was *that* easy to fudge the numbers they would hide the code.

First pencils, now this.

 

[davewhite04]

Actually, the number of non-EU immigrants will increase as the EU retreat. And since non-EU ones have less education/skills, that means more pressure on low pay, low skilled jobs. The ones who overwhelmingly voted out.

Remember yesterday because it will go down in history as a monument of stupidity.

Actually you're wrong. We will implement a points system like Australia.

Don't feel bitter.

 

[SPG]

As opposed to the UK's unelected House of Lords with life membership, and the unelected Royal Family? Not to mention the fact that the Commissioners are just glorified civil servants, and the entire British Civil Service is unelected anyway...

Last time I checked the house of Lords, Civil servants do not create policy. I would say the same of the house of Lords they are there as a check and balance. Life peerages are a problem and its being dealt with, IN HOUSE not by some commissioner elected by the German club.

 

[Steedie]

Then kiss goodbye to trading with the EU.

Won't happen

 

[Roar87]

Then kiss goodbye to trading with the EU.

Yeah we may as well scrap the Channel Tunnel and all our Ferry Ports on the South and East Coasts, there will be no trading

 

[Mr Jack]

I did go and check for myself. Two thing are immediately obvious: (1) the sum of the number of signatures by country doesn't equal the total number of signatures so either the data is incomplete or is updated more slowly and (2) there are UK citizens living outside the UK who have the right to vote, just because people aren't in the UK doesn't mean that don't count.

 

[easyrider]

It will be worse off than what we had before, because frankly, can you imagine Germany let a member leave then negotiate something better than when they were in it?

That would give reasons for everyone else to leave.

So my feelings remains the same, we have literally ****** ourselves.

Better to be free and in control rather than be bullied in a relationship

As far as I am concerned the EU can go **** itself.

Oh and BTW I'm educated and voted Leave.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Won't happen

Exactly, then we have to accept the free movement of workers.

I mean is that so difficult to understand?

 

[D13]

Nope

The day the people of Britain stood proud and refused to bend their knee and kiss the boot of the EU.

A great and historic day.

 

[wordy]

I wrote this more as a catharsis today with no real intention to post anywhere. But below are my feelings after yesterday.

An open letter to our parliamentary representatives.
I am not writing this to complain or argue in regards to the outcome of the European referendum. The result is, what it is and we must come together as a country to try and make the best of it we can, however people voted we are all in this together. This may be the best thing to happen to our country in years, or not, I am personally undecided.
The reason for this letter is to express my utter dismay in the way that this campaign was managed and run. As a referendum it is for the electorate to make a decision on the issue that has been referred to them.
As our duly elected representatives it was/is your duty to impart upon us the information that we need to make a fair and reasoned decision, on the basis on what we decided was best for ourselves, our families, communities and country as a whole. In this duty you have categorically and catastrophically failed. It was not for you to 'win' or 'lose'. It was not for you to convince and cajole people to your way of thinking. It certainly was not for you to threaten, scare and outright lie to manipulate the electorate into voting for what you thought was right.
In the first 24 hours since the results of the referendum, I've seen much information come forth from many parties and places that would have been useful and informative to allow the people of this nation to make their decisions.
The people that ran and represented the leave and remain campaigns ought to be ashamed of themselves, and really have a long think about what they believe democracy should be. Your actions and the way you ran your campaigns set a tone of hatred and fear that dominated this whole process, and I believe was directly responsible for the tragic loss of Jo Cox.
Just to be clear, this is not about the result, this is about the method and process that is supposed to inform and assist the people of this nation, but instead only made things harder by surrounding any facts with spin, rhetoric and lies.
I’ve no doubt that we as a nation can get through the uncertainty and whatever may come over the following days, months and years. We will continue as we always have, and prosper.
The only reason that my heart is heavy, is the appalling actions that both sides of this debate have taken to obfuscate and manipulate the populous. We are a better people than that, our representatives should be above that base level of politicking as well.
We suffer and prosper together. We all want what is best for us all, we all deserve better than we have been treated thus far.

Take the bit about Jo Cox out and that is the best post I've ever read.

 

[Fubsy]

I can see it now:

UK vote out.
BoJo becomes leader of Tories and calls GE.
Labour (without Corbyn) landslide as people want back in EU.
Scotland gets independence.
Article 50 never gets invoked.

 

[SPG]

I would bet a large wager the next PM will be the most hated of all time. A lot of that hate will come from Leavers feeling they we're misled.

Based on what evidence ?

Oh wait there is none, but everything will be blamed on BREXIT anyway.

Might as well make up the nazi moon base is getting ready to deploy its special anti brit weapon....

 

[robfosters]

LOL!! Like Priti Patel and John Redwood would sign this.

 

[scorza]

Indeed. We simply wont get one without the other.

That's not true. Switzerland is about to put controls on EU migration, they will be able to continue to trade with the EU. Canada is about to sign a free trade deal with the EU that doesn't include free movement. We can always ask to be in the EEA with controls on free movement - worst they can do is say no.

 

[Janesy B]

Better to be free and in control rather than be bullied in a relationship

As far as I am concerned the EU can go **** itself.

Oh and BTW I'm educated and voted Leave.

A relationship normally involves compromise, if you want the benefits you have to take the perceived negatives too.

It's a case of people wanting their cake and wanting to eat it all. It's going to end in tears.

Net migration will go up as there will be less people leaving the country and the NHS will not survive without nurses from Portugal etc.

 

[Darujhistan]

It sounds again like many people have voted without actually realizing all the consequences...


Much like in '73 when people thought they were joining a common market.

 

[easyrider]

Then kiss goodbye to trading with the EU.

Eh?

You really are silly and yet think you know whats what !