Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

How did you vote in the EU Referendum?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 861 53.0%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 763 47.0%
  • Total voters
    1,624
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Werewolf said:
Because AFAIK we have no laws that require politicians to tell the truth when campaigning.
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We should give Cameron credit to carry out his promise that there will be a referendum as that was his campaign during the General election. In hindsight the guy is more truthful than Farage and Johnson...unsurprisingly.
 
The bit that makes me chuckle is all the Remain lot going, come on then, wheres this 350m that was going to be spent on the NHS, erm, the Leave lot arent in control of the government so have no say on where that money goes, they never did, did people really vote on the strength of stuff like that?

Then you see the Remain lot crying over leaving Europe, seriously..


The whole lot was a shambles, both sides lied, shed loads of scaremongering, the Remain lot want a re-vote, yet if they had won they'd be telling the Leave lot to just shush, you lost etc...

Hows about everyone just "British" up, mumble under your breath, then STFU and get on with it..
 
I wrote this more as a catharsis today with no real intention to post anywhere. But below are my feelings after yesterday.

An open letter to our parliamentary representatives.
I am not writing this to complain or argue in regards to the outcome of the European referendum. The result is, what it is and we must come together as a country to try and make the best of it we can, however people voted we are all in this together. This may be the best thing to happen to our country in years, or not, I am personally undecided.
The reason for this letter is to express my utter dismay in the way that this campaign was managed and run. As a referendum it is for the electorate to make a decision on the issue that has been referred to them.
As our duly elected representatives it was/is your duty to impart upon us the information that we need to make a fair and reasoned decision, on the basis on what we decided was best for ourselves, our families, communities and country as a whole. In this duty you have categorically and catastrophically failed. It was not for you to 'win' or 'lose'. It was not for you to convince and cajole people to your way of thinking. It certainly was not for you to threaten, scare and outright lie to manipulate the electorate into voting for what you thought was right.
In the first 24 hours since the results of the referendum, I've seen much information come forth from many parties and places that would have been useful and informative to allow the people of this nation to make their decisions.
The people that ran and represented the leave and remain campaigns ought to be ashamed of themselves, and really have a long think about what they believe democracy should be. Your actions and the way you ran your campaigns set a tone of hatred and fear that dominated this whole process, and I believe was directly responsible for the tragic loss of Jo Cox.
Just to be clear, this is not about the result, this is about the method and process that is supposed to inform and assist the people of this nation, but instead only made things harder by surrounding any facts with spin, rhetoric and lies.
I’ve no doubt that we as a nation can get through the uncertainty and whatever may come over the following days, months and years. We will continue as we always have, and prosper.
The only reason that my heart is heavy, is the appalling actions that both sides of this debate have taken to obfuscate and manipulate the populous. We are a better people than that, our representatives should be above that base level of politicking as well.
We suffer and prosper together. We all want what is best for us all, we all deserve better than we have been treated thus far.
 
Nitefly said:
Those are all terrible reasons in context of the economic consequences.

Those in favour of remain should collectively concede that leaving the EU was the right thing to do if and when the pound surges up against the dollar and the euro to better rates than when the referendum was announced (i.e. far greater than $1.60 to the pound).

The facts so far: worst rates for 31 years ($1.36 to the pound) and, in one day, a 7% fall in the FTSE250 i.e. the one that isn’t grossly skewed by international entities. Plus a further backdrop of at least two years of guaranteed economic uncertainty.

So until that day please forgive my pessimism and resentment in what seems to have been a truly awful decision :p
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Well it's all relative really, for me Democracy is important ideologically. I understand that government organisations like the EU very slowly over time expand and make new laws and seek additional powers, and I believe governments should be small and highly Democratic to stem corruption. 5 unelected Presidents, MEPs with no real power and 10,000 Ministers on more money than our PM is an unacceptable situation for me. And it was only ever going to get worse.
 
Robbo said:
Because they absolutely have to.

I think we would have one already if both campaigns hadn't descended into headline grabbing nonsense.
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Oh theres a clear way forward alright. It certainly will be headline grabbing but not the ones Leave wanted to see and good reason they haven't seen them so far.
 
PermaBanned said:
So how are people feeling now about an EEA membership deal?
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It will be worse off than what we had before, because frankly, can you imagine Germany let a member leave then negotiate something better than when they were in it?

That would give reasons for everyone else to leave.

So my feelings remains the same, we have literally ****** ourselves.
 
If you look at the facts of the matter, the only thing the Leave campaign managed to achieve is an acting out, they managed to throw a hissy fit and "get their way".

Immigration-wise, this doesn't really change anything. Most immigrants weren't from the EU anyway, and they won't stop EU migration either because without freedom of movement the treaties the UK would sign would be so economically onerous it would make even the most staunch Leavers re-assess their position. As for the refugees, they weren't getting in either.

Economically, what did they gain? Look at the pound, that says it all.
 
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