Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Edrof]

We need a referendum on whether Fuggan CAN leave the thread, really.

 

[Vtec9k]

No that's not democracy because our MEPs get outvoted sometimes in the EU

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not?

 

[Darujhistan]

Based on the EU's track I would say it's very unlikely to change. Heck, even key remainers started talking about "reform" of the EU during the campaign, which was quickly rubbished by President Juncker. The EU is about what it's always been about - more countries, more powers, more centralisation, less democracy.

It means protecting our freedom and our ability to self determination, something our forefathers fought and died over.

[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Government_defeats_in_the_House_of_Commons_(1945%E2%80%93present)"]This [/URL]is democracy in action in the UK, an elected house showing its teeth and power against the executive. By contrast the EU is an elected, unaccountable elite.

No use trying to explain the value of democracy to remainers they can't understand the value of anything you can't spend.

 

[Mauller]

I'm so happy for the fishing industry. That industry will boom.

it will be a slow recovery considering the last fishing boat in bideford set sail the other week. I remember years ago when there were fishing boats lining the quay in bideford, ilfracombe and other areas in the south west.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I'm so happy for the fishing industry. That industry will boom.

Until the principle of the tragedy of the commons exhausts all the fish stocks.

 

[Christmas themed thank]

I think John Major said it best.

You don't have to agree with him but I think he summed up my thoughts the best.

 

[Darujhistan]

Originally Posted by Amp34 View Post
The EU doesn't and never has "controlled" us.


Right, so who was it that told our fishermen they can't fish in our own waters?

 

[Kenai]

I'm so happy for the fishing industry. That industry will boom.

For 10 years until they destroy local fish stocks from overfishing and aren't allowed to fish EU waters

 

[Poneros]

The EU has controlled us in many ways, being unable to create our own trade agreements with other countries is one.

Yes, because you are part of a collective that has greater bargaining power together - that's the whole point of it. Or do you think as a sole country, with a worsening economy, you will now have greater leverage than as part of the EU?

 

[[TW]Fox]

I don't think it will be long until we sort out a trade deal with BMW.

Yes because nation states often negotiate trade deals with private corporations

 

[StriderX]

I think John Major said it best.

 

[easyrider]

The EU prohibits manufacturers of bottled drinking water to label their product with anything that would suggest consumption would fight dehydration.

The EU is to blame for people not drinking enough water

 

[soundb0y]

Not seen it mentioned yet but is no one else ecstatic that this means the end to the TTIP in Britain?

 

[Raikiri]

For 10 years until they destroy local fish stocks from overfishing and aren't allowed to fish EU waters

Pretty much. My brother is a fisherman, rod and line only but if they lift the limits it will destroy the stocks.

 

[Chojin]

I'm confident in future trade agreements with the Commonwealth et al. We are now unshackled from mediocrity. Our exports to Europe have been declining for years.

According to the European Commission, over the next ten to 15 years, 90% of world demand will be generated outside Europe. I think we're going to do just fine

 

[Kenai]

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not?

From me it is but others have said it in full seriousness

 

[davewhite04]

The EU doesn't and never has "controlled" us.

Negotiating for the best position for your group is not control. unfortunately there are about 500million people in the rest of the EU and 65 million in the UK. Many people will soon learn the powers of collective bargaining...

Canada isn't part of the EU.

If you want to read further into this subject I would suggest looking into the laws the EU have applied to the UK in the past 40 years or so.

That is control.

 

[StriderX]

For 10 years until they destroy local fish stocks from overfishing and aren't allowed to fish EU waters

Just fish it illegally like everyone else has done with our waters?

 

[[TW]Fox]

Originally Posted by Amp34 View Post
The EU doesn't and never has "controlled" us.


Right, so who was it that told our fishermen they can't fish in our own waters?

How much did you take the trouble to understand about the CFP before forming an opinion on it?

 

[davewhite04]

I'm confident in future trade agreements with the Commonwealth et al. We are now unshackled from mediocrity. Our exports to Europe have been declining for years.

According to the European Commission, over the next ten to 15 years, 90% of world demand will be generated outside Europe. I think we're going to do just fine

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