Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Buckster]

It's Britain. Honestly, nobody needs perfect spelling on a forum but when getting all patriotic it helps to spell your country name properly

well if Scotland leaves we won't have a GB anyway !

 

[RoboCod]

OK, this did make me chuckle ...if you don't get the result you want.

 

[Destination]

It gives them a mandate to proceed. They have already said today this is what will need to happen after they find a new PM.

Who said this?
Quote me please.

 

[TechMinerUK]

Yep. Remain won in Leeds by a .3% majority, Harrogate by 1% and York by 8%.
Leave won in Skipton, Richmondshire, Scarborough, Ryedale, North East Lincolnshire, the East Riding of Yorkshire, Barnsley, Doncaster, Hull, Bradford, Hambleton, North Lincolnshire, Rotherham, Wakefield, Calderdale, Kirklees and Selby.
What was your point?

I stand corrected, I didn't realise it was so close in Leeds (It doesn't surprise me though). I find it odd that those who received the most EU funding voted out, I'm sure their are valid reasons but what are the (If anyone can, please explain)

 

[Caged]

Another interesting comment from elsewhere:

"Boris never wanted to leave, he wanted to lose but come out with an energized party with fresh eurosceptic members who would back him for the leadership and thus the premiership. Then he could say, "it was a once in a lifetime chance, such a shame we can't have another vote, let's just muddle on and negotiate with them for Blighty."

The only happy one is Farage and he's a **** fruitcake"

I think it's pretty clear that neither Gove nor Boris expected to win. This was a play for Number 10 and it's backfired spectacularly on them, even more so when it turned out that Cameron wasn't going to be the one to actually pull the trigger for it.

 

[delta0]

Tbf, they can hide behind the fixed parliaments act as long as needed till 2020. And other than the EU question, they can pretty much get away with parking all other contentious legislation till then, and do little in this term. Never really killed a government before.

That would have been likely if Corbyn had resigned today. However he didn't so the Conservatives will see an easy victory by calling an election.

 

[Nate--IRL--]

It's about the potential for the Article 50 requiring notification possibly being no more than mentioning it to an EU official rather than in writing as many believed. If so then Cameron merely mentioning it whilst there would signify the start of the process as it's unlikely to not be mentioned.
It's all about how it's interpreted though as Article 50 isn't that clear (after all, I don't think anyone believed it would ever be used). However the EU will want it started sooner rather than later and have said October is too far away for them. Expect lawyers to be arguing over it for a while.

Yeah it was something along those lines that I'd read.

Nate

 

[datalol-jack]

I'm still not sure how a Pro-Brexit Conservatives leader and PM - lets say BJ

will lead a Conservative party that is in the majority Pro-EU ?

how does that work exactly ?

They can gradually knife away the bigger opposing faction. Just need time. Their PPC rules would make getting rid of dissenters easy, and the new electoral boundaries can be set so as to favour Eurosceptics. Politics, bro. It could potentially be a total mess for four years straight, but I'm not sure what that would solve, other than punish 'the people'.

 

[Concrete]

Don't know if this has been posted yet, I dont think so because more people would be discussing its implications:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ent-twitter-statement-stop-this-a7102931.html

 

[[TW]Fox]

I stand corrected, I didn't realise it was so close in Leeds (It doesn't surprise me though). I find it odd that those who received the most EU funding voted out, I'm sure their are valid reasons but what are the (If anyone can, please explain)

Ignorance mostly - many people simply didn't take the trouble to find out and voted with instinct on the headline issues instead.

Cornwall is a particularly good example - it has done exceptionally well out of EU money and benefited in ways it never would have from regular government funding yet voted leave?!

 

[Gilly]

I stand corrected, I didn't realise it was so close in Leeds (It doesn't surprise me though). I find it odd that those who received the most EU funding voted out, I'm sure their are valid reasons but what are the (If anyone can, please explain)

I can't answer for that (being in the other camp) but all I can think is lack of understanding.

I still can't find anyone actually saying what's positive out of leaving. That's an honest statement. If anyone can post in a sensible fashion saying what their opinions on a positive outcome is/might be then I'll have a read

 

[Caged]

OK, this did make me chuckle ...if you don't get the result you want.

This level of JPEG artifacting offends me

 

[LOAM]

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-1826

University of Edinburgh asking last year if changes to the UK’s EU membership might require the consent of the Scottish Parliament.

I still dont believe this could possibly the case, it would be constitutionally farcical that no one has checked it.

 

[Buckster]

Ignorance mostly - many people simply didn't take the trouble to find out and voted with instinct on the headline issues instead.

Cornwall is a particularly good example - it has done exceptionally well out of EU money and benefited in ways it never would have from regular government funding yet voted leave?!

they'll have a nasty shock then

as will Wales

 

[delta0]

Who said this?
Quote me please.

This was sky news earlier around 11.

 

[Gilly]

Don't know if this has been posted yet, I dont think so because more people would be discussing its implications:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ent-twitter-statement-stop-this-a7102931.html

It's been posted, but it was this afternoon so is about 20 pages back

 

[TechMinerUK]

Don't know if this has been posted yet, I dont think so because more people would be discussing its implications:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ent-twitter-statement-stop-this-a7102931.html

Political suicide, I can see that happening

Ignorance mostly - many people simply didn't take the trouble to find out and voted with instinct on the headline issues instead.
Cornwall is a particularly good example - it has done exceptionally well out of EU money and benefited in ways it never would have from regular government funding yet voted leave?!

Ahh, it seems to be a similar case up here as the East Ridings gets an awful lot of EU funding for coastal defense, culture etc. Strange but whats done is done

 

[Jono8]

I still dont believe this could possibly the case, it would be constitutionally farcical that no one has checked it.

Seemingly no one has bothered to look into what we will do if we did vote to leave so it wouldn't surprise me.

Thing is it is in Sturgeons best interests NOT to do this because then she won't have a mandate for another independence referendum.

 

[TechMinerUK]

I can't answer for that (being in the other camp) but all I can think is lack of understanding.
I still can't find anyone actually saying what's positive out of leaving. That's an honest statement. If anyone can post in a sensible fashion saying what their opinions on a positive outcome is/might be then I'll have a read

Same, I always try to look on the positive side but for the time being the only positive for me is keep moving forward to find one

 

[Buckster]

Seemingly no one has bothered to look into what we will do if we did vote to leave so it wouldn't surprise me.

its fine - we'll "wing it" moving forward

its not like its important

as I said earlier - what they going to do when they leave for summer hols ?