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Pac3y · 17 Jun 2013 at 22:19

That does look absolutely stunning! Find it funny how it says its based on reality?

biron_w · 17 Jun 2013 at 22:34

Red and White said:
why is there no specific release date yet?

Maybe they're waiting a bit to see how production goes before putting a date out?

biron_w · 17 Jun 2013 at 22:37

atpbx said:
I've just been reading an article that quotes Scott Rohde who's the software product development head for Sony world wide studios america that states that the PS4 will not allow online passes.

Sony won't be using online passes for first party games because even if you buy it used you're still paying for PSN+. Whether or not 3rd party publishers use them is out of Sony's hands.

atpbx · 18 Jun 2013 at 08:35

biron_w said:
Sony won't be using online passes for first party games because even if you buy it used you're still paying for PSN+. Whether or not 3rd party publishers use them is out of Sony's hands.

He's quite clear in the article that it won't be happening.

GAC · 18 Jun 2013 at 08:45

biron_w said:
Sony won't be using online passes for first party games because even if you buy it used you're still paying for PSN+. Whether or not 3rd party publishers use them is out of Sony's hands.

hmm from what i remember from the e3 show the only time they said you'd be paying for multiplayer games would be psn games, where you;d need a sub in the first place to be able to purchase them anyways. the only other online multiplayer games that should cost you anything extra is mmo's.

that is unless iv missed something, and by something i mean where someone from sony says you need a psn sub to play ANY game online.

biron_w · 18 Jun 2013 at 08:50

atpbx said:
He's quite clear in the article that it won't be happening.

He's made it quite clear that Sony can't stop third party publishers from using online passes. It's up to the publishers.

The online (multiplayer) component of third-party games could be restricted to second-users (with a paid online pass required to unlock).

Source
So it'll be the same as it is now.

ShortWarning · 18 Jun 2013 at 10:59

Matson said:
I just came across this and thought i would share for people who havent seen it.

Its final fantasy 15 battle gameplay and it looks awsome to me.
I wonder if this is running on the ps4?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A

It does look pretty awesome.

I kind of with they'd used a different IP for this and stuck to turn based for FF but I'll definitely be picking it up.

HeX · 18 Jun 2013 at 12:20

Matson said:
I just came across this and thought i would share for people who havent seen it.

Its final fantasy 15 battle gameplay and it looks awsome to me.
I wonder if this is running on the ps4?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A

Has a very 'Advent Children' vibe to it. Be interesting to see how it works.

Mobius 1 · 18 Jun 2013 at 12:27

agreed with the turn based combat. wishing they would go back to it :/ final fantasy hasn't felt like a final fantasy since X imo..

Plainsong · 18 Jun 2013 at 12:31

I dunno the combat definitely looks interesting. Looking very good from that vid.

ps3ud0 · 18 Jun 2013 at 13:42

biron_w said:
He's made it quite clear that Sony can't stop third party publishers from using online passes. It's up to the publishers.

Source
So it'll be the same as it is now.

I think the confusion just lies that whatever that online pass is, it wont be how its executed today within Sony PSN infrastructure, the publishers with have to to set that up all by themselves outside of PSN.

ps3ud0 :cool:

Narj · 18 Jun 2013 at 14:21

Hrm I thought that perhaps PS4 would be supporting 3D for gaming. Is this not the case? Googling about suggests not.

kevpuk · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:11

Narj said:
Hrm I thought that perhaps PS4 would be supporting 3D for gaming. Is this not the case? Googling about suggests not.

I would be surprised if it didn't - PS3 does, game dependant :confused:

GAC · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:12

probably just not shouting about it as its not really a big selling point.

ps3ud0 · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:16

I think Sony are moving their PR from the albatross that is 3D to 4k. Obviously they want to sell more 4KTVs when they come out

ps3ud0

robfosters · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:17

Would there any be any benefit in replacing with an SSD?

I suppose it's expensive though. When you was replacing a 60GB HDD it was affordable, but a 500GB one's a bit trumpy.

Narj said:
Hrm I thought that perhaps PS4 would be supporting 3D for gaming. Is this not the case? Googling about suggests not.

They probably don't mention it as it is thought of as such a standard feature nowadays.

ps3ud0 · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:21

robfosters said:
Would there any be any benefit in replacing with an SSD?

I suppose it's expensive though. When you was replacing a 60GB HDD it was affordable, but a 500GB one's a bit trumpy.

Wait til we know more about the file system and more importantly if game installs are required/allowed. If they are, a SSD whatever the file system should help - Ill be getting one but will look into how external drives are dealt with - be nice to have my favourite games on the SSD while the others on the external - like people do with spilt Steam installs. If its like the PS3 Ill just get the biggest XT drive I can...

ps3ud0 :cool:

Quinnaay · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:23

3D hardly took off, i for one certainly dont care about 3D gaming.

GAC · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:24

also depends what hdd comes with the ps4. just hope its not another 5400 eco snail drive like we got with in the early ps3's.

if its a fast 500gig drive id probably stick with it for a few years until sdd's are very cheap.

TheVoice · 18 Jun 2013 at 15:53

It won't be a 7,200rpm one, that much is almost certain. At least the option is there to upgrade later though.

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