*** The Official Playstation 4 (PS4) Thread ***

Psycho Sonny said:
you would likely need a DAC/AMP to use headphones which are harder to drive, sorry I don't know your full setup and how it's all setup so I'm just guessing here.

if all your looking for is decent sound and want an easy to drive pair of quality decent headphones, then AT50's or HD25-1 ii's would be a much easier option imo and they would plug straight into the controller but i imagine plugging them into a DAC or AMP would produce even better SQ.

it all depends on what you would be happy with and what your willing to pay for.

no point spending £200+ if your not a pure audiophile and £100 would to the job exceptionally well compared to what your used to. comparatively even a really good pair of £30-40 headphones may be a massive improvement to what you are used to and then even spending £100-£150 may be a waste.

if you are an audiophile though and have used DAC's in the past as well as FLAC instead of MP3, etc then yeah a £200+ setup would be justified.
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Thanks. I am certainly not an audiophile but I did enjoy listening to FLAC on my old ATH M50's through a Fio headphone amp. Looking at it, it seems a very good option will be a second hand Astro amp (for the virtual Dolby and amping) and a decent pair of headphones, I do not want to take a step back in quality from the M50's so will be looking at the 100-200 range for some open back ones as I understand these are better for surround gaming etc. Comfort is a key factor here and the Beyer's seem to be winning in this regard although this is purely subjective from reviewers which is all I can go on.

For anyone else in a similar quandary please look here before spending your money: http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-update-2-20-2014-boompro-list-chicoloms-faq-added
 
What did i get free this month with PS Plus? Is it worth logging in for?

Last time was some silly horror game... so im expecting something good.

For me, right now... worst console ive purchased.
 
Whens that new 'gold' wireless headset supposed to be available? - been waiting for it since 14th of Feb! and still no UK retailors with it :(
 
imo the surround astro amp is going to be an inferior setup to using a fiio DAC/AMP.

by buying a decent set of headphones then using a surround emulator defeats the purpose of buying decent stereo headphones imo.

buy the headphones you want and drive them using a fiio DAC/AMP. doing it your way would imo be a waste of a quality set of headphones.
 
Agree but it's a compatibility issue, I don't know if a USB DAC/AMP will work with the PS4 and can't find many with optical in :)
 
Psycho Sonny said:
imo the surround astro amp is going to be an inferior setup to using a fiio DAC/AMP.

by buying a decent set of headphones then using a surround emulator defeats the purpose of buying decent stereo headphones imo.

buy the headphones you want and drive them using a fiio DAC/AMP. doing it your way would imo be a waste of a quality set of headphones.
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Your level of ignorance is bordering on offensive.
 
mlbtheshow said:
What did i get free this month with PS Plus? Is it worth logging in for?

Last time was some silly horror game... so im expecting something good.

For me, right now... worst console ive purchased.
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Yeh it was just some silly horror game.

But next month it is looking like it will be some silly top-down zombie shooter, or some silly 2D puzzler, so I'd just sell my console now if I was you.
 
Noxia said:
Agree but it's a compatibility issue, I don't know if a USB DAC/AMP will work with the PS4 and can't find many with optical in :)
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FIIO sell a optical DAC which will definitely work but it's not released here in the UK last time i checked but you can get it shipped over from america, amazon US has it for example. The extra few quid in shipping costs would surely be no problem to someone looking to spend £200+ on a setup.

as for USB DAC i'm pretty sure i've read about them working on the ps4 as well over at head fi, so look into them as well.

do not buy that cheap crappy £12 optical dac on amazon though, that would be a waste of quality headphones.
 
Noxia said:
Please elaborate, would be good for some first hand experience!
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Well for starters virtual surround on the Astro A40's works so much better than stereo (believe me, I have used my A40's on both my 360 for MW3/Black Ops II and Ghosts) and via standard stereo input on my Xbox One (for Ghosts, due to a lack of the Dolby Digital standard on the old firmware) and the sound cues (reloading of weapons, people on different surfaces, character chatter) is far better for pinpointing where people are and when they are going to run passed that doorway/window.

You can hear them to a degree over stereo, but they are far more pronounced with virtual surround sound, and once things start kicking off (guns/explosions) it becomes harder to pick out those finer details with stereo as opposed to VSS.
 
Well due to the relative inexpense of some items I may try a couple and see what works out best like the DAC Sonny linked. Like I said, I do not play a lot of FPS but some games can still benefit from the sound accuracy of virtual surround. Settled on BD DT-990 headphones, seems a good compromise at £118.
 
this could make use of USB and optical

http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-E17-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0070UFMOW

it is more expensive.

if you don't think fiio make super products to what your looking at then this thread may clarify that for you.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/699717/petition-for-a-gaming-device-from-fiio

they want fiio to make a device specifically for gaming instead of having to use devices designed for other uses.

surround emulation on stereo headphones is just digital trickery, your detracting from the real sound imo it's not what an audiophile would want but more suitable for pinpointing to a certain degree.

but you could argue a cleaner crisper sound through a DAC and using stereo could also emulate that.

either way at the end of the day your using stereo headphones, the only input they can use is a stereo one, the surround sound is all digital trickery, emulation not reproduction.
 
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Does the PS4 support Dolby Headphone? Thanks for the headfi link Noxia its all very subjective which is why theres never gonna be a definitive right answer...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Psycho Sonny said:
this could make use of USB and optical

http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-E17-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0070UFMOW

it is more expensive.

if you don't think fiio make super products to what your looking at then this thread may clarify that for you.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/699717/petition-for-a-gaming-device-from-fiio

they want fiio to make a device specifically for gaming instead of having to use devices designed for other uses.

surround emulation on stereo headphones is just digital trickery, your detracting from the real sound imo it's not what an audiophile would want but more suitable for pinpointing to a certain degree.

but you could argue a cleaner crisper sound through a DAC and using stereo could also emulate that.

either way at the end of the day your using stereo headphones, the only input they can use is a stereo one, the surround sound is all digital trickery, emulation not reproduction.
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Thanks, I think I had the older version of that without the optical in. I guess one argument for the Astro is that it gives the option, you don't HAVE to have the Dolby surround emulation on. I think I'll try get a second hand one but also have a pure DAC/AMP as well.

ps3ud0 said:
Does the PS4 support Dolby Headphone? Thanks for the headfi link Noxia its all very subjective which is why theres never gonna be a definitive right answer...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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It does not but this is done by the device, like your Astro Mixamp or alternative.
 
Noxia said:
Thanks, I think I had the older version of that without the optical in. I guess one argument for the Astro is that it gives the option, you don't HAVE to have the Dolby surround emulation on. I think I'll try get a second hand one but also have a pure DAC/AMP as well.



It does not but this is done by the device, like your Astro Mixamp or alternative.
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Pretty much my reasoning with the Mixamp, VSS on for gaming with the A40s and then off for everything else with a set of decent headphones instead. DH is pretty good for positional sound too...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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