Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*
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Solid deal that
Seems stick drift is still a thing on the newer rev. controllers. My camo one that's not even 6 months old started drifting to the left and reading around plenty of people still get the issue. The white one works all right but for how long I wonder....
Dualsense is **** quality-wise. I've got a DS4 v2 that's been in much heavier use and still works flawlessly. Heck, my PS3 one still works
Dualsense is **** quality-wise. I've got a DS4 v2 that's been in much heavier use and still works flawlessly. Heck, my PS3 one still works
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Don't think so, my hands rarely get sweaty and I take care of my stuff. The controller also hasn't been in heavy use, I've even been switching between the two.
While it's possible that something clogs up underneath and interferes with the potentiometer, it's usually just shoddy pots, which seems to be the case as the issue is widespread enough.
In fact someone asked here before whether Sony had fixed the issue with the new revision, to which question I replied "allegedly" and here we go
Tried resetting it etc. and all the usual "fixes". It's not that terrible yet but if it's indeed a hardware issue, it'll only get worse so time to send it in.
I even thought it corrected itself after some time of behaving normally but it still drifts to the left in menus and in games occasionally.
I'll try cleaning it again in the evening just to be sure.
While it's possible that something clogs up underneath and interferes with the potentiometer, it's usually just shoddy pots, which seems to be the case as the issue is widespread enough.
In fact someone asked here before whether Sony had fixed the issue with the new revision, to which question I replied "allegedly" and here we go
Tried resetting it etc. and all the usual "fixes". It's not that terrible yet but if it's indeed a hardware issue, it'll only get worse so time to send it in.
I even thought it corrected itself after some time of behaving normally but it still drifts to the left in menus and in games occasionally.
I'll try cleaning it again in the evening just to be sure.
Yeah, but if it still persists it's the actual potentiometer degrading so it's bound to get worse. Worth a shot anyways. Also heard some people got drift after a software update, and there's recently been one.
Don't think that's it though.
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I’ll stand by my previous comments relating to stick drift and the fact the Edge controller has replaceable sticks. Seems to me Sony knows there is a problem, hence the ability to change sticks on the Edge. The only other reason I can think of is if Sony are going to release sticks with different resistance etc but it seems unlikely.
I’ve been through several PS5 pads since PS5 was released that have suffered with stick drift. Never had a single PS4 pad get drift between 2014 and 2020.
Coincidence? I just can’t bring myself to believe that it is.
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Planned obsolescence why sell one controller when you can sell 2, 3, 4....just after the warranty has run out
They could just use hall effect, the volume they would be purchasing I can't see it increasing the BOM significantly.
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You could also speculate that the only reason the Edge has replaceable sticks is because they know people who are spending £200 on a controller aren't going to be happy if the sticks are busted within 6 months, and I doubt they want to be continually dealing with warranty claims on these (like they presumably are with regular controllers) so having the sticks replaceable gives them more options here.
There's a lot of talk about sticks that use "hall effect" sensors being the holy grail solution to this but presumably there is a reason none of the big three have released these yet. It seems like the one company that released these for Switch has run into issues with it's first batch so perhaps it just comes down to there being considerably more work required on these before they're ready for wider adoption. Maybe we'll see Sony (or a 3rd party) release these for the Edge.
I'd suggest it's entirely down to luck. I believe the PS4 and PS5 controllers use identical parts for the analog and there's been plenty of independent investigation done at this point to show that drift is essentially inevitable and the part should be considered a consumable that will eventually break down over time.
What Sony could do to improve this (and they have done this but they've locked it behind the Edge controller for the moment) is implement system level controller dead zone adjustments. This doesn't fix the issue but by allowing you to increase the deadzones by even a tiny amount you can make a controller that is drifting usable again.
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Both of my Dualsense's have been perfect since release.
Can't say I've ever had stick drift on any controller I've had.
Can't say I've ever had stick drift on any controller I've had.
Well, I'm sure they're well-aware of the issue by now. All parts are plastic there and will deteriorate way quicker with this sort of movement.
Seems to be luck of the draw but there's no denying these controllers are prone to it, unfortunately. I'd expect something of better quality by now but I guess they don't care.
People are still reading forums online and taking some massive generalisation from them - surely people have lived their lives online long enough and are old enough to understand reports in forums are never a good indication of that is really happening.
As of right now, there are 32m+ PS5's in the wild, each with their own Dualsense. Lets take a very conservative 10% of those have also bought a second controller, so 35m+ controllers in the wild.
What percentage of those do you honestly think, based on the forum posts you're reading, are faulty?
10% - that's 3.5m faulty controllers? Of course not every single owner of a faulty controller is posting, but that seems like a high extrapolation. 5%? 1.7m faulty controllers?
Not saying there are no faulty controllers, plenty of proof otherwise. I am saying that the problem is almost certainly not as high as people are making out.
We appear to have learnt nothing from the whole "scalping" thing with the PS5. You would read the numbers and percentages people online would claim are being scalped - seriously you'd think that 70-80% of all consoles were being scalped, when the industry has put that figure far closer to the 10-12%.
As of right now, there are 32m+ PS5's in the wild, each with their own Dualsense. Lets take a very conservative 10% of those have also bought a second controller, so 35m+ controllers in the wild.
What percentage of those do you honestly think, based on the forum posts you're reading, are faulty?
10% - that's 3.5m faulty controllers? Of course not every single owner of a faulty controller is posting, but that seems like a high extrapolation. 5%? 1.7m faulty controllers?
Not saying there are no faulty controllers, plenty of proof otherwise. I am saying that the problem is almost certainly not as high as people are making out.
We appear to have learnt nothing from the whole "scalping" thing with the PS5. You would read the numbers and percentages people online would claim are being scalped - seriously you'd think that 70-80% of all consoles were being scalped, when the industry has put that figure far closer to the 10-12%.
Is anyone here really commenting on how widespread the issue is? All that matters is that it's definitely widespread enough that it's gained attention and even resulted in a lawsuit filed against Sony (yeah, changed much probably
).Sony even lists it as an available option when filing in the online warranty form and there are only like three options, lol.
All I'm saying is the controllers are prone to drift and that the construction is shoddy, which, to anyone who's ever disassembled one and took a look at the stick parts, is obvious. Nothing else.
It's like saying the percentage of broken Joycons is way overblown. No need for a Sherlock to deduce everything on the internet is overblown but what does it even matter? The issue exists and, again, is big enough to be a problem.
The same can be said of people who disregard it as something incredibly minor because "it works on my machine".
Also, 10% failure rate on a 70£ peripheral that you can't be sure will make it till the end of warranty period would be HUGE. And I suspect the failure rate might be higher than that, maybe closer to 15% as there are people with minor drift or deadzone changes who aren't yet aware of the problem or haven't even posted about it.
I don't even need to read the forums because I know people personally who had these problems, one went through three controllers in half a year, each developing different amounts of drift. And now me, very lightly used camo controller. Six months and bam. No one is claiming 50% of controllers are faulty but it's definitely big enough.
And about scalping, I have no idea about percentages and it seems you have your own preconceptions about it but last year it was IMPOSSIBLE to buy a PS5 in my country without paying for an overpriced bundle or buying from a scalper. Every single console I found on the internet was being listed for way above MSRP.
Do you think I cared about industry percentages then?
All I could see was an entire COUNTRY devoid of PS5s and where they were available, they were sold at ridiculous prices. And I'm sure mine wasn't the only country in the world, regardless of how widespread scalping was worldwide.I've had more luck with PS5 controllers than I had with PS4 controllers. I think I was going through a new PS4 pad every 3 months because of right analogue stick drift... Although that could have been down to Covid lockdown and playing an unhealthy amount of Warzone.
I'm sure it's because I'm older now but I can't ever remember my Xbox 360 controllers having stick drift issues, it was always just the actual analogue sticks wearing out and becoming smooth.
I'm sure it's because I'm older now but I can't ever remember my Xbox 360 controllers having stick drift issues, it was always just the actual analogue sticks wearing out and becoming smooth.
I've had drift on DS4 as well, the last one I got seems to be working fine still, outlived the Dualsense by quite a margin
My 2 DS4’s were fine. I only bought a second one because I broke the right trigger playing Bloodborne - which I later paid for parts and fixed. Never had any drift in 7 years over thousands of hours. PS3 was the same never had an issue.
The Switch (2 sets of Joycons both drift badly) and the PS5 are the only times it’s ever happened to me and I’ve bought almost every console since the snes.
As above though it does seem to be random and not everyone suffers from it.
The Switch (2 sets of Joycons both drift badly) and the PS5 are the only times it’s ever happened to me and I’ve bought almost every console since the snes.
As above though it does seem to be random and not everyone suffers from it.
I can only talk from Xbox side but I have been playing Halo Infinite with a controller for a month or so without issues. I then decided to alter the gamepad settings in the game to try and match what the Pro players use. And hence now I have stick drift. So it could be offset in games which support altering gamepad sensitivity but then I guess you lose out of better aiming?
So you’ve got until 9th May to claim them or do they just stop working at that point for everyone?