Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*

Will you be buying a PS5 Pro on release?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 15.1%

  • No (not at £700 Lol)

    Votes: 198 57.4%

  • No (other)

    Votes: 77 22.3%

  • Pancake

    Votes: 18 5.2%
  • Total voters
    345
beachBOYken said:
What’s the point, seriously why do we even need a pro? It feels like games have not even taken advantage of the current ps5.
Just seems really pointless to me.
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If it means I don't have to choose between 4k or 60fps and can run everything at 4k/60 I'd be interested.
 
beachBOYken said:
What’s the point, seriously why do we even need a pro? It feels like games have not even taken advantage of the current ps5.
Just seems really pointless to me.
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Isn't it obvious from the leak?

Sony wants to sell 8k TVs so it needs a machine that can create "8k" content. The current ps5 can't even output a 8k signal nor can it play 8k movies, and in theory a ps5 pro would use an rdna3 or rdna4 GPU and would use FSR3 to upscale games at playable framerates to 8k

And that's really what a ps5 pro is there to do, to play the same games as the ps5 but give people a reason to buy a Sony 8k TV. Sales of 8K TVs is quite poor and Sony needs a way to help fix that. A ps5 pro would also be able to upscale movies to 8k and play what 8k video content does exist like some YouTube videos and Netflix in the future
 
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8k content? What size screens do you need for that to notice a difference?

If they are going fully push this 8k nonsense that will likely be the ps6
 
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Grim5 said:
Isn't it obvious from the leak?

Sony wants to sell 8k TVs so it needs a machine that can create "8k" content. The current ps5 can't even output a 8k signal nor can it play 8k movies, and in theory a ps5 pro would use an rdna3 or rdna4 GPU and would use FSR3 to upscale games at playable framerates to 8k

And that's really what a ps5 pro is there to do, to play the same games as the ps5 but give people a reason to buy a Sony 8k TV. Sales of 8K TVs is quite poor and Sony needs a way to help fix that. A ps5 pro would also be able to upscale movies to 8k and play what 8k video content does exist like some YouTube videos and Netflix in the future
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8K is just marketing nonsense. Even the normal PS5 has 8K on the box
 
beachBOYken said:
What’s the point, seriously why do we even need a pro? It feels like games have not even taken advantage of the current ps5.
Just seems really pointless to me.
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Agreed. There are only a few games that have used the full power of the PS5. Very few third party publishers release PS5 only games. Seems pointless doing a PS5 Pro.
 
Final fantasy 16 runs at 720p on the ps5

The ps5 isn't as particular good hardware anymore. It's 3 years old and 3 years is a long time in tech land
 
Grim5 said:
Final fantasy 16 runs at 720p on the ps5

The ps5 isn't as particular good hardware anymore. It's 3 years old and 3 years is a long time in tech land
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So much this. I wish people stopped perpetuating this myth that the PS5 has some sort of untapped potential and "you'll see once devs make PS5-only games".

FFVI is an exclusive game and has to drop to 720p in combat to stay close to 60fps and it even drops below 30fps in quality mode during Eikon fights.

It's all optimisation, nothing more. Even great looking and superbly optimised games like Horizon FW don't run at native 4k, the console is too weak for that. CROSS-GEN games rarely run at native 4k, granted it's no biggie because upscaling is mostly solid (not in FFVI though) but still.

PS5 is around 2070S performance with much worse RT capabilities, that's all. Great console and it runs what I want it to run but it's no powerhouse anymore.

People expecting that devs will suddenly tap into the "power" of the console and deliver games better looking than FW running at 4k and perfect framerate are going to be surely disappointed.
Let's not even get into RT, that's for the better.
 
Amatsubu said:
So much this. I wish people stopped perpetuating this myth that the PS5 has some sort of untapped potential and "you'll see once devs make PS5-only games".

FFVI is an exclusive game and has to drop to 720p in combat to stay close to 60fps and it even drops below 30fps in quality mode during Eikon fights.
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True, it's certainly not like the EmotionEngine or Cell days where it took years to figure out how to use the CPU/GPU effectively. It's an x86 PC in a box with a really fast SSD.

I probably wouldn't jump to a Pro at launch though as I'm happy with what the PS5 can do when the game engine is good e.g. RE4, Demon's Souls, Elden Ring etc.
 
Paracelsus said:
True, it's certainly not like the EmotionEngine or Cell days where it took years to figure out how to use the CPU/GPU effectively. It's an x86 PC in a box with a really fast SSD.

I probably wouldn't jump to a Pro at launch though as I'm happy with what the PS5 can do when the game engine is good e.g. RE4, Demon's Souls, Elden Ring etc.
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How do you explain PS4 games looking better as the generation went on? You honesty think they knew about to eek out the performance to make GoW or Red Dead or TLoU2 look as good they do from the start? Even though it is a x86 platform it takes time to figure out all the tips and tricks to mitigate the consoles shortcomings. Though i will concede that they probably got out the blocks faster on the PS5 as they don't need to learn a whole new API's and such
 
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DIABLO said:
How do you explain PS4 games looking better as the generation went on? You honesty think they knew about to eek out the performance to make GoW or Red Dead or TLoU2 look as good they do from the start? Even though it is a x86 platform it takes time to figure out all the tips and tricks to mitigate the consoles shortcomings. Though i will concede that they probably got out the blocks faster on the PS5 as they don't need to learn a whole new API's and such
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I can't say I noticed that, but I only had a Pro so I wouldn't have. Could it not be a case of developers working on their engines/new engines, and not specifically exploiting the console? Like, you can run a newer PC game on an older graphics card and they can often look much better than earlier releases even on the same hardware.
 
DIABLO said:
How do you explain PS4 games looking better as the generation went on? You honesty think they knew about to eek out the performance to make GoW or Red Dead or TLoU2 look as good they do from the start? Even though it is a x86 platform it takes time to figure out all the tips and tricks to mitigate the consoles shortcomings. Though i will concede that they probably got out the blocks faster on the PS5 as they don't need to learn a whole new API's and such
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There wasn't that much of a gap, Infamous SS, for example, looked very impressive at launch and it was open world. Both it and Shadowfall I've recently tried on PS5 and both hold up damn well with Infamous being particularly impressive with effects - a PS4 launch title, mind.

There are just games that look better than the rest because they're super polished and as you've probably noticed, they aren't exactly beaten by every new release so the devs aren't consistently tappng into anything. It's just a case of a few special exceptions and talented devs. In fact, it's just the opposite, most newer games have increasingly more performance problems because of various reasons.

Just look at PS5 launch titles, Demon's Souls is still one of the best looking games on the platform and it's been three years.

Similarly, find me a game that looks significantly better than RDR2, and that's a 2018 PS4 title.

It's all a matter of a good engine and there's just not that much to tap into or figure out about the PS5 at this point. We might get better stuff but it won't be anything groundbreaking.

Also, we're not at the start but three years into its lifespan, with rumours of a Pro despite all the forum experts here saying it'll never come, and the number of games that can't hold 60fps with upscaled res or just default to 30fps is increasing and not decreasing, which should tell you something.

SMALL EDIT: It might sound like I'm really negative but I'm very happy with how the games look, I just wish devs focused on performance and didn't try to go overboard on hardware that just doesn't cut it for what they're trying to do, like RT etc.
 
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So does a 2070s have to run ffvi at 720p to get 60 fps too as that seems like a very poorly optimised game. A 2070 is still a pretty powerful card despite its age.
 
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