**** The Official Prometheus Spoiler Discussion Thread ****

[i-bert]

I want the video feed to be reasonably accurate to the rate of technological progression we have seen in our real-life time. I'm sure you'll go 'yeah but RS was going for continuity' but I doubt that was it at all.

I could get into all sorts of other issues when it comes to sci-fi and poorly executed technological advancements (they're using some pretty weak ass torches in the film too) but that's another argument.

You're just clutching at straws now.

The technology they have is to be used on an unknown planet, with unknown atmospheric conditions. How the hell can you be complaining about the video footage and torchlight quality.

Some of the flaws people are trying to find are pathetic.

 

[Deiwos]

You're just clutching at straws now.

The technology they have is to be used on an unknown planet, with unknown atmospheric conditions. How the hell can you be complaining about the video footage and torchlight quality.

Some of the flaws people are trying to find are pathetic.

Nice rolleyes once more buddy. You're really looking good with them. They really show you off in your best light.

I don't really get why you say I'm clutching at straws. I'm saying that from a technological POV in the film, using grainy cameras and torches that barely illuminate the area in front of them doesn't at all fit in with the '100 years into the future and able to traverse space' theme. I loved the mapping orbs, I thought 'yeah, I can see that being a thing in 100 years' but the cameras and torches (and a bunch of other things too) just felt poorly executed.

I'm still saying I enjoyed the film, I'm hardly slamming it saying it was awful but I did find myself thinking 'why would you do that' and 'why are you using seemingly antiquated technology'.

Call me a pedant, I don't really care but I thought it could've been better.

 

[i-bert]

Nice rolleyes once more buddy. You're really looking good with them. They really show you off in your best light.

I don't really get why you say I'm clutching at straws. I'm saying that from a technological POV in the film, using grainy cameras and torches that barely illuminate the area in front of them doesn't at all fit in with the '100 years into the future and able to traverse space' theme. I loved the mapping orbs, I thought 'yeah, I can see that being a thing in 100 years' but the cameras and torches (and a bunch of other things too) just felt poorly executed.

I'm still saying I enjoyed the film, I'm hardly slamming it saying it was awful but I did find myself thinking 'why would you do that' and 'why are you using seemingly antiquated technology'.

Call me a pedant, I don't really care but I thought it could've been better.

I think Ridley Scott would give you more than rolleyes if you put these criticisms to him. If fact I'm pretty sure he would tell you to **** off.

 

[Deiwos]

I think Ridley Scott would give you more than rolleyes if you put these criticisms to him. If fact I'm pretty sure he would tell you to **** off.

Are you Ridley in disguise? You seem awfully attached to this film.

 

[NathanE]

If Ridley is too old to helm the suggested follow-ups, do you think they wouild go ahead? If so, who would you like to see take on the project?

If it makes financial sense to Fox then of course they will go ahead, with or without Ridley. Just as the Alien franchise did.

I would love to see James Cameron direct the sequel but he won't as he's too busy messing with underwater submarines or Avatar sequels. Or David Fincher, since I think he deserves another shot after the Alien3 debacle.

That said, it's more important to get the screenplay right than choosing who directs.

 

[v0n]

I would love to see James Cameron direct the sequel but he won't as he's too busy messing with underwater submarines or Avatar sequels.

According to interviews after Cameron's last "trench surfacing" - Ridley did offer, and Cameron does want to do it.

I like this bit: "There's a gap of a few years between Prometheus and the original Alien," Cameron said. "That gap is meant for me to answer all the questions raised in Prometheus.". As long as it's not Lindelof answering those questions, the sequel is safe

 

[Curio]

Mixed feelings if its Cameron. Obviously Aliens was ace, but he'll probably just want make another cartoon like Avatar. He better build proper sets and keep the CG to a minimum, like RS did for Prometheus. If Lindelof is involved again I won't be a happy bunny I hope RS directs again and gets a better writer involved.

 

[EddScott]

I read that Cameron is only focusing on Avatar 2 and 3.

 

[Grandmaster Fap!]

As much as i like Cameron, if he did the sequel it would turn into a 3D reach around and be more about him and his tech than the story.

And god help me if Lindelof is involved again, it'll probably have smoke monsters in it and i'll commit murder....

 

[HangTime]

Why do people need to have everything spelled out for them in films? You know as much as the crew did (except David).

I don't need "to have everything spelled out" in the film itself, I just wanted to know how other people interpreted those sequences because my personal view wasn't entirely clear. That's one of the things people do in spoiler discussion threads about films, discuss their interpretation of events (or in some cases fill people in on things that they didn't pick up on).

It wasn't a veiled criticism of the film, it was a genuine question

 

[The Running Man]

So you want the video feed from an earlier time period, to be better quality?

What medium was it being played on, projector into thin air?! Tenous. The day we can do full 3d recording and project it back into thin air in some 3d manner, i hope we can do it better than in black and white with a grainy picture...

Also, i really disliked the 'captain' of the ship. His job is to get the space craft there and look after his people right?

He has just flown an unknwon distance and an unknown amount of time, and he has two people trapped in a hostile environment. Should he monitor the activity?

hell no, interacial nooky time.

He doesnt even put the comms system in 'record mode' so they can replay any transcripts later. In a time when you have airbourne cavity scanners that can wow map out a huge installatiion in no time at all, you;'d have thought that something simple like tape backup of all comms/insurment data would be a given right?

Utterly backward.

Granted if they'd been there 10 years and nothing untoward had happened you might forgive him for saying, okay hold the phones darling ill be in the back in 10 mins. But havinh just landed, seeing the goo, and then trapped ina storm, jyst forget all that and go for the blonde honey? id say he was probably the wrong man for the job.

or its just a copmpletely unrealistic film, and this is where people say 'its sci fi'.

yes its sci fi. but just because it is in a different setting from today doesnt mean that Humans will act completely different to how humans would actually act.

You might say, yes she was blone and hot and he is a black guy so would be loving that. But was the allure enough to really kill the mission in the first day of the mission after waking from stasis?!

 

[HangTime]

Haha I wondered about that too at the time (the fact there was no recording or playback to see what had happened).

To be though, he's been without for over two years - Charlize Theron would get it

 

[wedgie]

Of all my problems with Prometheus, I simply can't hold it against the captain that he A: propositioned Charlize Theron, and B: dived right in when she actually said yes .

 

[FoxEye]

It's not a bad film at all. That's your opinion.

But who's to say it's "not a bad film at all". Isn't that just your opinion?

People all over the 'net are divided on this one. Some are calling it a classic and giving it five stars. Others think it was entirely forgettable, and not nearly as good as Alien or Aliens.

I'm actually surprised it's so controversial. I couldn't see much worthy of praise in this film, and suspected it would be critically panned across the board.

I was wrong there, of course. Some people *are* panning it, but others (imo mysteriously) love it.

 

[i-bert]

You might say, yes she was blone and hot and he is a black guy so would be loving that.

I think we know why you dislike the Captain.

 

[The Running Man]

some people love to be different. it was a decent film. i mean i wasn't clockwatching at the end so it held my attention. maybe my brain was still running though the issue of not backing up voicrcomms. or no second in command or no shift change to.monitor the details. remember how much the blonde woman wanted to be the first to make contact she wasn't even concerned that 2 men were left back there to their own devices while she presumably romped away....why?!?

and mainly why the woman who gave c section didn't like..tell anyone what had happened or warned them about an alien hiding in the medical machine...weird
id be telling everyone and anyone.. 'look look - the scars !'..

 

[Curio]

or its just a copmpletely unrealistic film, and this is where people say 'its sci fi'.

yes its sci fi. but just because it is in a different setting from today doesnt mean that Humans will act completely different to how humans would actually act.

While I agree, I think you're picking on the wrong stuff. All the questionable recording parts can be explained away and I'm willing to forgive that type of issue as you could apply it to almost any sci-fi movie.

It's things like the (presumably world-class) biologist guy talking to the snake-alien-thing like a puppy that bothers me - and the fact that pair decided to "head back to the ship" just as things started to get interesting. And Vickers not thinking to jump a few feet to the side to avoid the falling ship - is she Wile E Coyote in disguise or something?

As for the Captain, yeah, you have to cut him some slack. I'd have been up Charlize faster than a face-hugger up an air duct

 

[NathanE]

But who's to say it's "not a bad film at all". Isn't that just your opinion?

People all over the 'net are divided on this one. Some are calling it a classic and giving it five stars. Others think it was entirely forgettable, and not nearly as good as Alien or Aliens.

I'm actually surprised it's so controversial. I couldn't see much worthy of praise in this film, and suspected it would be critically panned across the board.

I was wrong there, of course. Some people *are* panning it, but others (imo mysteriously) love it.

No that's not my opinion. A "bad" film has a IMDb score of, typically, below 5.0.

A lot of what went on in Prometheus has been speculated on for decades. And a lot of that speculation turned out to be true. I think that's why some people are fundamentally disappointed with Prometheus. Because it was too predictable i.e. it went down the route that they always suspected it would. Then there's people that thought they were going to see a "sci-fi horror slasher" movie like Alien and were left disappointed. In reality it is just a pure "sci-fi" movie.

Historically, films that try to wrap fiction around the origins of the human species tend to be hugely divisive just like Prometheus has been. Think back to when Stargate came out. It got panned, and even today it still only has a 6.8 on IMDb. And yet in any sci-fi buff's opinion this movie is a total classic. How about Contact? A 7.3 on IMDb, not too bad, but still in any sci-fi buff's view this is a 8.0 minimum type movie. It is simply brilliant. Mission To Mars is another victim. It's a genuinely decent piece of sci-fi but in pop-culture, like Contact and Stargate, it gets ridiculed.

Average joes exit the cinema after seeing Prometheus and think "hang on that movie just tried to convince me that I was created by a extraterrestrial called an Engineer" quickly followed by "that simply isn't true!"

Whereas with Alien in 1979 they exited thinking "yes yes yes that really looks like how the future will be, and I'm sure somewhere out there a nasty alien like that really exists so that whole movie was quite plausible to happen in a couple centuries time."

 

[i-bert]

Average joes exit the cinema after seeing Prometheus and think "hang on that movie just tried to convince me that I was created by a extraterrestrial called an Engineer" quickly followed by "that simply isn't true!"

I think you're flattering the average joe.

They are more concerend about which way you would run as a giant spaceship falls on you.

 

[Curio]

I think you're flattering the average joe.

They are more concerend about which way you would run as a giant spaceship falls on you.

Ouch. That hurt, man.

So do you dispute that the hand-picked band of elite scientists appeared to be completely retarded on several occasions?

Although I enjoyed the film, it had some serious issues from a film-making standpoint. It also had some completely awesome parts as well.