**** The Official Prometheus Spoiler Discussion Thread ****

james_2k said:
i enjoyed it to be honest. few weird bits and bobs but overal not bad.

also i doubt the alien which comes out of the engi at the end is the first one of that type. hence:

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If you look carefully there are two face hugged humanoids at the bottom, although not apparent in this shot :)
 
hmm couldnt see them, theres certainly some tentacle type things going on.

all in all though, it was enjoyable and i like the imagery etc used in the movie
 
Finally got to see this. Thought it was beautifully shot, but it left me with more questions than answers. Will have a look online to see what other people picked up on this evening.
 
I agree with basically all but one opinion in comparing it to Alien, Alien was a crew further on in time when they were doing pretty much bog standard "space work" travelling long distances, human colonies on other planets. They thought they were going to a basic distress call, no hint of aliens or anything they hadn't really experienced, IE, an airlock broke or an oxygen producing machine needs repair parts.

They get there, look around, get attacked, once attacked you really have to look into things and the ship wasn't particularly built for it(its been ages since I watched it, was it a transport ship or a science vessel?), either way when forced into a situation you react, and often badly in panic.

In Prometheus they went across god knows how far, seemingly quite early in the timeline of human space travel(i'm not sure it was made clear how "new" they were to this region, first humans that far or not, no clue), with the direct intention of contacting aliens, simple as that. They took a dedicated science team, a robot and weapons, yet decided to use zero common sense at any point. Stuff as completely daft as "there is oxygen in the air lets all take our helmets off", on a human colony where people have lived, fine, on an alien planet oxygen doesn't equal safe.

The situation of both crews was entirely different, the preparation for what might happen SHOULD be completely different, they were looking for different things, had different equipment, the situations aren't remotely comparable.

Again the difference is, they spent trillions on a mission to find these guys, knew they could be hostile(how do humans treat genetically manipulated animals, clones, why would we automatically assume anyone, IF they created us, wouldn't view us in the same way), didn't prepare in any way at all and reacted in the worst possible way at every possible point in the film.
 
Watched this again last night, I tried to overlook all of the things that i found a little off when i had watched it previously but there were still a few things that got to me.

For the most part i can overlook most of the things people seem to have a problem with and as they are making a sequel will give them the benefit of the doubt on other stuff but there are some really minor things that ssem to drive me mad!

The main problem for me is the crew they are mostly ridiculous most of my gripes have already been mentioned in the thread but one other (fairly minor:p) thing which annoyed me was...

The 'biologist' the guy who is more than willing to get real close to some creepy worm snake thing is the same guy who after discovering the corpse of a previously unknown, seemingly intelligent alien life form can't get away from it fast enough! What kind of biologist is he?? Surely that would be the type of thing that makes all of his Christmas' come at once! :mad: :p
 
Hi guys, firstly I must apologise if this question has already been answered, I have browsed a few pages and I cannot see it so here goes.....

I somehow managed to live 27 years of my life without actually watching the Alien movies. I corrected this by watched them all early in the year and despite being made in 1979 it didn't look to dated at all, I loved it. I then watched Prometheus which I also thought was a great film BUT with Alien still being fresh in my mind I don't understand something.....

In Alien when they respond to the SOS and land, climb on board of the deserted ship you see the "engineer" sat in the pod, his skeleton has a huge exit hole ion his chest.
In prometheus "the prequel" - they are on the ship and the engineer suits up and gets into the pod ready for take off...up to now this all makes sense. UNTIL the engineer exits the ship to hunt down Shaw before being killed so obviously im confused? his dead body cannot have climbed back into the pod ready for the Alien film?

Maybe its a different ship, maybe its a different planet, hell maybe its even a different engineer but im really struggling to find out if this question has been answered?

Thanks
 
The main thing is the original engineer was absolutely gigantic. They got over part of that by turning his exoskeleton into a spacesuit but really, 'engineers' are way off the original design by Geiger. His way off imagination is part of what made the original so that is part of why its not quite as good but it wasnt workable in their opinion

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bad_ass_neil said:
different ship, different planet, different engineer so all 3
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ok well this is great to hear but what's backs this up? because its seems a crazy coincidence to have two ships of the same look abandoned in a very similar situation but on separate planets...

I did pick up on the size difference, I just amused they didn't want to have them as big as they had made them look in Alien
 
silversurfer said:
The main thing is the original engineer was absolutely gigantic. They got over part of that by turning his exoskeleton into a spacesuit but really, 'engineers' are way off the original design by Geiger.
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Earlier on in this thread I coined a theory that the entire "prequel-with-prequel-sequel" Prometheus setup was done in such a way, that it doesn't involve any of the parts of the licensed Alien franchise. Engineers are different, smaller, different detail on spacesuits than Space Jockey's exo, different jockey chair, different planet, different system, different tech, different Wayland company and logo. Different generative stages, pseudogeigeristic architecture elements, aliens, life liquids, all the way to alternative squidhugger and pteromorph instead of xeno. There is not a single piece that carries over from prequel to original franchise and vice versa. It's like one of those knock of mockbusters (Transmorphers instead of Transformers etc) but with huuuuge budget.
 
pauLAW said:
ok well this is great to hear but what's backs this up? because its seems a crazy coincidence to have two ships of the same look abandoned in a very similar situation but on separate planets...

I did pick up on the size difference, I just amused they didn't want to have them as big as they had made them look in Alien
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Scott said in the pre release stuff that it was a different planet, ship, etc. This world was just one of many that the Engineer's use for their installations. They'd be crazy to keep that stuff on their home world, which is pretty much what Janek said. What brought both down ships though, were two entirely different events.
 
pauLAW said:
ok well this is great to hear but what's backs this up? because its seems a crazy coincidence to have two ships of the same look abandoned in a very similar situation but on separate planets...

I did pick up on the size difference, I just amused they didn't want to have them as big as they had made them look in Alien
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One planet is lv426 (tells us the name in aliens) and promethus planet is lv223

The space craft also has different damage and its not the same alien.

Promethus is not a prequal.
It's not even set in the true alien universe.
Forget the word to describe it, but its based on the alien universe with some changes.
 
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