**** The Official Prometheus Spoiler Discussion Thread ****

Slightly different, the Matrix sequels made almost no sense even though they tried to explain things to a fault.

It doesn't take an inquisitive viewer to have a hundred questions after watching Prometheus because that's how the thing is written. That style of storytelling is just not for me, I'm ok with filling in some of the blanks, I'm also fine with some of those blanks not actually mattering at all, having to fill in the blanks 10+ times throughout the course of one film is not something I've ever enjoyed.
 
wedgie said:
It doesn't take an inquisitive viewer to have a hundred questions after watching Prometheus because that's how the thing is written. That style of storytelling is just not for me, I'm ok with filling in some of the blanks, I'm also fine with some of those blanks not actually mattering at all, having to fill in the blanks 10+ times throughout the course of one film is not something I've ever enjoyed.
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Despite my extremely reserved post a few pages ago - I don't think I've ever watched a film so indulgent in poor, lazy, hackneyed script writing. Nothing is explained. Things that are integral to the understanding of the plot, the motivations of the characters and the narrative of the film are willfully and directly shown, then put away into a cardboard box with "Spooky Mysteries!" written on the side.
I cannot think of a part of the film that isn't stupid, unexplained, wrong (in terms of continuity) or just plain ****.

I'll present a good example:
David was shown to be masterfully dexterous in the opening of the film. Riding the bicycle around the confined space whilst playing perfectly with the basketball.

Less than 15 minutes later, we are expected to understand and believe that an exploration mission, costing $1 trillion, would have a security detail consisting of a single human geologist?
A human geologist who evidently has little physical strength (the captain is significantly larger / stronger than him), questionable motivations (Security detail? Isn't he a geologist? But doesn't he later say they don't even care about the rocks? Why is he even there!? I don't even... Anyway) and who is easily persuaded by someone only notionally in authority not to carry out his job.

Meanwhile, on the same mission, our robotically strong, dexterous, intelligent, quick-thinking and mission-conscious robot friend is not tasked with the safety of the other crew members on the mission, jeopardising the entire endeavour for no other reason than because.

The script is ****ing ****.
 
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I figure that would be the answer...

So... Try harder to do what? Find a solution to his aging? I fail to see how a stupendously intelligent android would leap from that problem to a solution of tricking a fellow crew member into ingesting an unknown chemical that could very well lead to more piles of dead bodies around the place. The instruction to try harder makes sense in the context of his finding the engineer in the cockpit and waking him up and asking for help. It doesn't make sense in terms of him poisoning other crew members.

I don't buy it, I'm afraid. It's stupid.
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I think David introduced the toxin to the dr in the drink because he needed to see first hand what it did. He didn't know it was a toxin, he also didn't know if it would cause the guy to turn into one of the engineers, or something else, which in turn could potentially help weyland.

This is one of the lesser plot holes in the script and its sad that I can say that as normally if a film had so many issues with the script it would be utterly battered in the box office, whilst this has done quite well.
 
It makes no sense that David, an enormously intelligent android, would go into the pyramid, see shedloads of dead bodies and horrific scenes, find some weird black goo and decide it was a good idea to administer it to one of his crewmates to see what would happen.

And the fact that Weyland told him to "try harder" to find him a cure for his aging and death is just a cop out. Of all the things that David tried he decided to give his crewmate some random chemical he found on an alien planet? It's absurd. You make him out to be an idiot who would try and random lunatic idea on the off chance it would somehow - by some utterly unexplained means - help Weyland.
 
Maybe the interaction between David and Charlie before hand had some influence on David, from watching the film Charlie didn't have the greatest respect for David and showed his contempt for him numerous times.

Maybe that was another reason for him to administer the black goo to Charlie, along with other reasons
 
Vonhelmet said:
It makes no sense that David, an enormously intelligent android, would go into the pyramid, see shedloads of dead bodies and horrific scenes, find some weird black goo and decide it was a good idea to administer it to one of his crewmates to see what would happen.

And the fact that Weyland told him to "try harder" to find him a cure for his aging and death is just a cop out. Of all the things that David tried he decided to give his crewmate some random chemical he found on an alien planet? It's absurd. You make him out to be an idiot who would try and random lunatic idea on the off chance it would somehow - by some utterly unexplained means - help Weyland.
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As intelligent as David is, he is effectively a slave to Weyland's wishes, but he's also got a sense of wanting to be more than he is or better than his makers. You see this when holo-weyland says that he's the closest thing to a son he has but will never have a soul, the look on David's face is like that of a child told he's getting no presents at chrismas!

You also have to take into account that on some level David could read the texts on the walls so probably had some small idea of what the vials of goo were used for, which is reinforced by his "Big things have.." speech.
 
Vonhelmet said:
It makes no sense that David, an enormously intelligent android, would go into the pyramid, see shedloads of dead bodies and horrific scenes, find some weird black goo and decide it was a good idea to administer it to one of his crewmates to see what would happen.

And the fact that Weyland told him to "try harder" to find him a cure for his aging and death is just a cop out. Of all the things that David tried he decided to give his crewmate some random chemical he found on an alien planet? It's absurd. You make him out to be an idiot who would try and random lunatic idea on the off chance it would somehow - by some utterly unexplained means - help Weyland.
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I concur.

A weak script and plot. Even though I did enjoy the film on some level it should have been a lot better given the nature of who was involved in the making. I wish it would have been at least an hour longer with more scences to fill the gaps (one being her resting a touch after the operation) - or just to show off some of the amazing scenes throughout that world which we didn't get the chance to see. More of the ship would have been great too. Oh, and let's not forget about character development - some of that woudl have been nice. Like was said earlier, the build up seeing David at the beginning of the movie was really interesting and brought you into the movie. What could have been! Maybe part two will be better. Fingers crossed.
 
Vonhelmet said:
It makes no sense that David, an enormously intelligent android, would go into the pyramid, see shedloads of dead bodies and horrific scenes, find some weird black goo and decide it was a good idea to administer it to one of his crewmates to see what would happen.

And the fact that Weyland told him to "try harder" to find him a cure for his aging and death is just a cop out. Of all the things that David tried he decided to give his crewmate some random chemical he found on an alien planet? It's absurd. You make him out to be an idiot who would try and random lunatic idea on the off chance it would somehow - by some utterly unexplained means - help Weyland.
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he had also had an altercation with annoying bloke before. i just see david as an android but with some emotion and a little bit of the devil in him. i dont see it as that bad to be honest. sure, i would have waited a bit longer before doing it as they hadnt been there long but there are far bigger holes IMO.
 
I finally got around to watching this. I thought it was a realy good movie. But I could not help get annoyed with some of the story.

The girl has an alien come out of her stomach and walks in to the room and no one even asks her about the staples in her stomach. They are more concerned with the old guy that just woke up. stupid!. Then there the two guys that left first and ended up sleeping next to alien eggs stupid!. Why not sleep in the corridor further down ? Then there the part where no one is on the comms because they are off doing other things whilst on an alien planet light years away from earth. Stupid!.

I think they could have added another 30-50 mins to that movie (not at the end but in different parts throughout) to give it more depth.
 
groen said:
I finally got around to watching this. I thought it was a realy good movie. But I could not help get annoyed with some of the story.

The girl has an alien come out of her stomach and walks in to the room and no one even asks her about the staples in her stomach. They are more concerned with the old guy that just woke up. stupid!. Then there the two guys that left first and ended up sleeping next to alien eggs stupid!. Why not sleep in the corridor further down ? Then there the part where no one is on the comms because they are off doing other things whilst on an alien planet light years away from earth. Stupid!.

I think they could have added another 30-50 mins to that movie (not at the end but in different parts throughout) to give it more depth.
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stomach staples is more impressive that seeing a man they thought was dead?

they werent alien eggs. they were viles of goo.
 
Well you would have thought she would say, "wow you are alive, i didn't know. Sorry to break up the moment, but an alien just came out of my stomach and is trapped in a room down the corridor. So lets first deal with that before we run off. Oh and david just tried to drug me with the alien in my stomach." Instead she just tags along back to the ship, even though she just had a load of drugs in her system and then she starts shouting at the alien.

How do you know they were viles of goo because they barely looked in to any of that, they merely just said don't touch anything and that was it. For people who are meant to be there investigating it they were not very good at investigating anything there. The only person that looked at the viles was david who didn't tell anyone anything. Serious lack of communication which annoys me in movies.


The movie was great up until the point where the alien came out of her stomach then it just got silly.
 
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groen said:
The movie was great up until the point where the alien came out of her stomach then it just got silly.
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Sure, that's where it got silly. I could have sworn by that point the two idiots had already approached the snake like alien as if it was a cute little bunny rabbit :p.
 
The vases(?) contained the liquid mutator/accelerator that caused the worm to change into the python thingy, and accelerated the acidic breakdown of Fifields helmet. That substance leaked out of the vases after the ecosystem changed.
People seem to miss the fact that the black goo that the engineer ingests, and later wassisface is infected with, is the dna deconstructor. It came from the vial from within the vase.
 
Please explained to me what the very first scene in the movie is about and why was the blue alien man on the ship with aliens to begin with?

From what i gathered the blue alien guy killed himself for unknown reasons and the ship with aliens was set up to kill the humans but they never got that far because the alien killed the blue aliens before they could launch for earth. Is that correct ?

So what was in the vases ? I thought the alien acid blood caused the helmet to melt. I thought worms were the "sperm" of the alien (from alien 1, 2, 3 etc)

What happened to that guy who ingested the black goo (dna deconstructor), well what would have happened if they did not kill him and why does it exist to begin with?
 
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Can't give you specific answers, only what others have concluded.

1. Short answer : Engineer consumes the black goo as a form of sacrifice. He seeds the planet with his DNA to produce life. The planet is unknown. Could be Earth, or any planet that eventually has life introduced to it.

2. Question - why did the Engineers change their mind and decide to kill everything on Earth? Good question - one that Shaw wants to find the answers to. There's a lot of theories about life and death and some convuleted cycle.

3. What's in the vases. The main content is the black goo I suppose. It's the stuff that the Engineer consumes at the start (I believe), and is what David infects the other scientist with. There are so many theories on what it does, how it functions. But I believe it is not the same as the leaking goo. I think that is a mutator of sorts.
When the alien acid splashes the one dude's helmet it SLOWLY starts to melt, but when he falls into the lake of goo (that's leaked out of the vases) suddenly the whole faceglass dissolves onto his face. That's why I think it's an accelerator. I also think it partially explains why the ALIENs have always grown so quickly.

4. I guess that the guy who was infected would have ended up like the Engineer at the start. Looked like his decomposition was slightly slower. Maybe because it was such a small drop of goo. Or maybe the Engineer took a mixture of black goo and the accelerant.

5. HOPE RIDLEY GIVES US AN EXPLANATION ON THE BLURAY!!!!!
 
I think prometheus was intended to be a space comedy but at the last minute they cut all the jokes so you are left with all the out of place happenings and unexplained events....

for me the film was held together by special effects and the fact it had aliens and space ships in...
 
Plunk13 said:
Can't give you specific answers, only what others have concluded.

1. Short answer : Engineer consumes the black goo as a form of sacrifice. He seeds the planet with his DNA to produce life. The planet is unknown. Could be Earth, or any planet that eventually has life introduced to it.

2. Question - why did the Engineers change their mind and decide to kill everything on Earth? Good question - one that Shaw wants to find the answers to. There's a lot of theories about life and death and some convuleted cycle.

3. What's in the vases. The main content is the black goo I suppose. It's the stuff that the Engineer consumes at the start (I believe), and is what David infects the other scientist with. There are so many theories on what it does, how it functions. But I believe it is not the same as the leaking goo. I think that is a mutator of sorts.
When the alien acid splashes the one dude's helmet it SLOWLY starts to melt, but when he falls into the lake of goo (that's leaked out of the vases) suddenly the whole faceglass dissolves onto his face. That's why I think it's an accelerator. I also think it partially explains why the ALIENs have always grown so quickly.

4. I guess that the guy who was infected would have ended up like the Engineer at the start. Looked like his decomposition was slightly slower. Maybe because it was such a small drop of goo. Or maybe the Engineer took a mixture of black goo and the accelerant.

5. HOPE RIDLEY GIVES US AN EXPLANATION ON THE BLURAY!!!!!
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dont hold out too much hope on the BR. from what ive seen only a couple of deleted scenes (which might clear a couple of bits up). i will still get it as i enjoyed the movie for all its faults. i also think it will show more the more you watch it. there are lots of little shots i didnt see or couldnt make out.

IMO the goo at the start and the stuff in the viles is different. the story of Prometheus is of his sacrifice (the greek god) to help others. there is loads of mythology in this movie. norse, sumarian, christian, greek etc. some of it subtle and some of it in your face (christmas day etc)

my mate also has a theory that the black goo mixes up with your DNA plus emotion.

i think the sequel (if we get one) will be less ambiguous and hopefully will have a better script. as they were the 2 weakest points IMO.

there is also the train of thought that the space jockey from alien was trying to protect us. we clearly see 2 types of engineer. the scholar type at the start and the bio-engineers later (maybe 1 peaceful and 1 warring, the creators and the destroyers?)
 
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