**** The Official Prometheus Spoiler Discussion Thread ****

[realBabelfish]

Why was the alien so large compared to the original aliens, the ones that suck on to your face and plant the baby alien in your stomach. The thing was huge.

That would be good to see a load of those attacking planet earth.

face hugger and alien depend on the DNA of their victim. normally facehuggers come from eggs, but this one came from a womb. its a different scenario to what we are used to. hence the different facehugger and ultimately different alien coming from the engineer

 

[spudbynight]

2. Question - why did the Engineers change their mind and decide to kill everything on Earth? Good question - one that Shaw wants to find the answers to. There's a lot of theories about life and death and some convuleted cycle.

They were going to have a plot in an earlier draft of the script explaining this. They had decided that Jesus was an engineer and this was revenge for his crucifixion.

 

[THMRK]

They were going to have a plot in an earlier draft of the script explaining this. They had decided that Jesus was an engineer and this was revenge for his crucifixion.

We shouldn't need to look elsewhere to make our own conclusions about that. If we can't even find a hint of a proper explanation about that in the film, which we can't, then the writer has failed.

 

[realBabelfish]

They were going to have a plot in an earlier draft of the script explaining this. They had decided that Jesus was an engineer and this was revenge for his crucifixion.

OR that it was because the earth started following jesus and not the engineers. conveniently forgetting thousands of years of religion before jesus

glad they dropped it (your idea) but it is, IMO, still implied

 

[hola_adios]

OR that it was because the earth started following jesus and not the engineers. conveniently forgetting thousands of years of religion before jesus

glad they dropped it (your idea) but it is, IMO, still implied

Oh sure, and Mel Gibson will take care of the script and the direction, engineers were responsible for the torture of Jesus Christ, jews are just another face huggers with 2 arms, the black goo is the holy spirit ... honestly so many mental *****.

 

[Curio]

I watched Alien (again) last night, and although I think it's a much better film than Prometheus, it did strike me that we can be very forgiving of films that are now considered classics.

For example, the crew of the Prometheus were short on brains (as has been documented thoroughly) but, to be honest, the crew of the Nostromo weren't much better. I actually LOLed when they're examining the dead face-hugger. Its acid blood ate through half the ship, and it could be carrying god-knows-what alien diseases, so they start poking at it with their faces about 2 inches away and with no protective gear on Also, they had the cool scanner to see what was going on inside Kane when the face-hugger was attached....but they didn't think to have another look once it had fallen off If they had, they may have noticed the large alien baby inside his chest! There were a few other dumb moments as well.

Still a brilliant film, but it's far from perfect.

 

[realBabelfish]

I watched Alien (again) last night, and although I think it's a much better film than Prometheus, it did strike me that we can be very forgiving of films that are now considered classics.

For example, the crew of the Prometheus were short on brains (as has been documented thoroughly) but, to be honest, the crew of the Nostromo weren't much better. I actually LOLed when they're examining the dead face-hugger. Its acid blood ate through half the ship, and it could be carrying god-knows-what alien diseases, so they start poking at it with their faces about 2 inches away and with no protective gear on Also, they had the cool scanner to see what was going on inside Kane when the face-hugger was attached....but they didn't think to have another look once it had fallen off If they had, they may have noticed the large alien baby inside his chest! There were a few other dumb moments as well.

Still a brilliant film, but it's far from perfect.

all films have annoyances. its just if the rest of the movie is great it kind of balances out - the screenplay in Alien is much better and the characters are much better too. i can forgive the oddities in Prometheus as i enjoyed most of the movie. i even liked AVP (only first one, 2nd was terrible) as it had some elements i enjoyed (aliens and predators - love them both!)

 

[edscdk]

. I actually LOLed when they're examining the dead face-hugger. Its acid blood ate through half the ship, and it could be carrying god-knows-what alien diseases, so they start poking at it with their faces about 2 inches away and with no protective gear on Also, they had the cool scanner to see what was going on inside Kane when the face-hugger was attached....but they didn't think to have another look once it had fallen off If they had, they may have noticed the large alien baby inside his chest! There were a few other dumb moments as well.

Still a brilliant film, but it's far from perfect.

yes but it does not become part of the plot, as in they all get infected with something from it... in prometheus the guy goes up and prods the alien snake thing in a cring worthy scene then get killed by it... (there are also other stupid scenes)

 

[v0n]

the crew of the Nostromo weren't much better. I actually LOLed when they're examining the dead face-hugger. Its acid blood ate through half the ship, and it could be carrying god-knows-what alien diseases, so they start poking at it with their faces about 2 inches away and with no protective gear on Also, they had the cool scanner to see what was going on inside Kane when the face-hugger was attached....

The Nostromo was commercial towing ship with a captain, two short contract engineers, executive officer (with face hugger attached), navigator, navy warrant officer (Ripley) and an in situ man/droid serving on behalf of the corporation. They were meant to do all of the stupid things you would expect glorified truck drivers in space do, especially with science officer serving interests of The Corporation regardless of cost.

 

[DAIR]

I seldom go to the cinema because I think they're way too expensive. However, this movie was well worth my hard earned pennies.

Great movie and the ending.... Great!


Really good way to revive the franchise!

 

[keyser]

I enjoyed it. In a way it's a shame we have some lame explanation for the Space Jockey, but I'm a fan of the Engineers. I like the unexplained stuff, because as soon as you explain anything it'll never live up to our expectations, which are fairly high when you're supposed to be explaining what intelligent aliens get up to.

Saw it in 3D which is probably the last time I'll bother with 3D. After 5 mins I forgot I was watching it in 3D until some annoying blurry scenes and couldn't focus them - which is a natural reaction to a blurry 3D image. Still, any 3D film you can walk away from without a headache is a good one 3D rant over.

My take on the behaviour of David; I was shocked none of the characters said "err why did you just open that door without asking for permission first?" I would have! Robots are slaves. As soon as they do anything without permission it's time for a format and reinstall The actor did a great job though, loved the character David.

 

[realBabelfish]

I enjoyed it. In a way it's a shame we have some lame explanation for the Space Jockey, but I'm a fan of the Engineers. I like the unexplained stuff, because as soon as you explain anything it'll never live up to our expectations, which are fairly high when you're supposed to be explaining what intelligent aliens get up to.

Saw it in 3D which is probably the last time I'll bother with 3D. After 5 mins I forgot I was watching it in 3D until some annoying blurry scenes and couldn't focus them - which is a natural reaction to a blurry 3D image. Still, any 3D film you can walk away from without a headache is a good one 3D rant over.

My take on the behaviour of David; I was shocked none of the characters said "err why did you just open that door without asking for permission first?" I would have! Robots are slaves. As soon as they do anything without permission it's time for a format and reinstall The actor did a great job though, loved the character David.

i would assume weyland told him to do whatever necessary to make him live longer. crew expendable... again

 

[SixTwoSix]

crew expendable... again

...or for the first time

 

[realBabelfish]

...or for the first time

touche!

 

[Curio]

The Nostromo was commercial towing ship with a captain, two short contract engineers, executive officer (with face hugger attached), navigator, navy warrant officer (Ripley) and an in situ man/droid serving on behalf of the corporation. They were meant to do all of the stupid things you would expect glorified truck drivers in space do, especially with science officer serving interests of The Corporation regardless of cost.

Excuses, excuses. Ash was supposedly the science officer and Ripley apparently had some brains in her head. You would have to be actually retarded to poke at a dead alien like that.

I'm not saying it was a big deal (and there was far worse in Prometheus....quite often) but I was just pointing out that Alien isn't immune to criticism either.

 

[Vonhelmet]

Excuses, excuses. Ash was supposedly the science officer and Ripley apparently had some brains in her head. You would have to be actually retarded to poke at a dead alien like that.

I'm not saying it was a big deal (and there was far worse in Prometheus....quite often) but I was just pointing out that Alien isn't immune to criticism either.

I can tell you're aware of this, because you've said as much, but one screw up in a film is easy to overlook. Yes, it is foolish behaviour when examined, but when the rest of the film holds up it doesn't prompt you to examine it looking for every last foolish thing.

 

[Amp34]

I watched it last night and just had so many WTF questions after I have to think it wasn't a very good file (usually I'm the one answering all the questions that others have...). The visuals were spectacular though and the script had such potential.

One thing that doesn't seem to have been suggested is whether that black goo was actually a "WMD". All we have is the woman saying it was, yet she hadn't even seen what David had seen at that point (the Engineer deck). Perhaps the goo could have been an experiment to make a life seeding potion more powerful, however the experiments went wrong, one experimentee went wild and killed all the Engineers before escaping..?

 

[Uncle Petey]

If you really want to get deep into it, check out the prometheus forums and go nuts with the theories about what meant what.

To me, it's a sign of a poorly executed film when there can be literally hundreds of theories as to wtf just happened.
The Matrix and a few other films are an exception to this.

I've been a massive fan of the whole Alien franchise since the 80's and Prometheus F'd up in too many ways for my liking. It's not a case of not being the film I wanted, more a case of a film that kept shaking me by the shoulders and screaming lol whut?

A few thoughts

Don't try and get cutesy with hostile looking alien snakeoids. It's obviously not a bloody cat
Don't expect aliens to give a toss about granting YOU eternal life
Use decent old man makeup or I dunno, use an actual old man maybe
RUN TO THE ******* SIDE!
Give us characters we actually give a crap about or at least make them relevant to something. Still trying to figure out why Charlize Theron's character even needed to be there or what purpose she served other than to provide some lame 'daddy wanted a son' subplot. Her pointlessly stupid demise just reinforced this.
If you're gonna crash the ship, don't ******* show it in the trailer knowing full well that A, it's a massive spoiler and B, people are obviously gonna think it's the same ship from Alien/Aliens when it isn't which only serves to further confusion and later disappointment when they find out.

There's loads more, but whatever.

Idris Elba, Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace gave a great showing though. It ain't all bad

 

[james_2k]

i enjoyed it to be honest. few weird bits and bobs but overal not bad.

also i doubt the alien which comes out of the engi at the end is the first one of that type. hence:

 

[i-bert]

Don't try and get cutesy with hostile looking alien snakeoids. It's obviously not a bloody cat - They were numpties, only there for the money and getting stoned tells you that they were not exactly the top of their fields.

Don't expect aliens to give a toss about granting YOU eternal life - How were they to know this? The Aliens had obviously had interactions with humans on Earth, probably helping civilization.

Use decent old man makeup or I dunno, use an actual old man maybe - He was very old, and they obviously wanted some continuity with the scenes of him as a younger man.

RUN TO THE ******* SIDE! - Into all the debris of the exploding ship? Good idea.