The official PS4 Headset/Headphones Guide/Discussion

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Guys you can use a USB chat cable (costs like £8) direct from ASTRO but beware it only works with certain mixamps (ASTRO cannot tell you why it only works with certain mixamps).

it can work with any mixamp they have made but it's not guaranteed it will work.

i have both the usb cable and the TB cable.

the USB cable doesn't work with my wireless 5.8 mixamp but i have just bought another, it may work with that one.

it's random it can work on any one but it's not guaranteed to work on any model.

the TB chat cable is guaranteed to work with any mixamp model.

the USB cable is obviously the preferred choice as it means less clutter and leaves your controller completely wireless and in fact the SQ is better using USB over the controller for comms, alas it didn't work for me.

any more questions then feel free to ask.
 
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hi

Im after some headphones for ps4 gaming and movies.

Without scrolling through this whole thread has anyone got some recommendations.

wireless would be good but I dont want to spend other £100.

*if it helps I want to be able to use them without the ps4 as well as I watch movies on a separate bluray player

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hi

Im after some headphones for ps4 gaming and movies.

Without scrolling through this whole thread has anyone got some recommendations.

wireless would be good but I dont want to spend other £100.

*if it helps I want to be able to use them without the ps4 as well as I watch movies on a separate bluray player

cheers

just headphones or a headset?

if just headphones you require a DAC/AMP which supports toslink/optical and then with the budget left over you then can buy something like Creative Aurvana Live brand new or HD595 second hand.

Headset and wireless then it has to be Sony first party ones designed for PS4 if you want brand new otherwise second hand 5.8 mixamp plus koss porta pro's or ksc 75's.

Headset and wired, then second hand mixamp plus koss portapro's or KSC 75's then upgrade the headphones when you can.

Whats my best option for a headset below £60? the PS4 earphones are a joke.

wired or wireless? also see above
 
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just headphones or a headset?

if just headphones you require a DAC/AMP which supports toslink/optical and then with the budget left over you then can buy something like Creative Aurvana Live brand new or HD595 second hand.

Headset and wireless then it has to be Sony first party ones designed for PS4 if you want brand new otherwise second hand 5.8 mixamp plus koss porta pro's or ksc 75's.

Headset and wired, then second hand mixamp plus koss portapro's or KSC 75's then upgrade the headphones when you can.



wired or wireless? also see above

Hi Psycho

I want as simple solution as possible, I'm not to bothered about mic.

For instance although over my budget I was looking at Sennheiser RS180 wireless headphones as this will work through my denon avr x2000 which I run all my devices through.

What do you think?
 
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Hi Psycho

I want as simple solution as possible, I'm not to bothered about mic.

For instance although over my budget I was looking at Sennheiser RS180 wireless headphones as this will work through my denon avr x2000 which I run all my devices through.

What do you think?

They are good but your paying a lot for the functionality rather than sound quality. e.g. The RS180 is probably comparable to HD558's or something like that (which I own, but only cost me around £80 brand new and can be modded into HD598's for free).

That AVR should have a decent DAC and AMP within it to power headphones, if you don't care about having a mic then get the best pair of headphones for your budget.

Q701 IMO would be the best for competitive gaming. A modded Q701 (bass port mod) for all rounders.

If you want to see reviews of the best wireless headphones look here

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-wireless

He seems to like them but a lot of people don't rate a lot of what he says. Head fi should have a lot of info on wireless headphones too but ultimately wired > wireless and costs less too to achieve the same sound quality. Spend the same amount on wired as you would on wireless and generally you end up with better quality.

I see the appeal of wireless though and that is why I bought the wireless mixamp over wired versions. I cannot have a wire trailing across the room where it can get snagged or ripped out by someone damaging equipment.

http://www.astrogaming.co.uk/a50

wireless headsets (which are decent quality) like the above IMO are overpriced too, which is why I opted for the 5.8 mixamp for £60-£80 (which is now very rare and hard to find as it's in very high demand and been EOL for several years now) and a set of decent headphones like the Q701 which only cost me £120 brand new from America (£200-£300 here in the UK with a RRP of £400) but I waited to buy them and I upgraded several times.

I spent <£30 on my first set of decent headphones brand new Panasonic HTF600 then HD595 £75 second hand, then HD558 £80 brand new then Q701 £120 brand new.

The Q701 is end game in terms of competitive gaming and sound quality for the money I will never find a better headphone than that. To beat it you need to spend around £300 or more for minimal improvements, the £95 deal from America was a steal and quite a large number of forum members in sound city bought it, in fact there are 2 HUGE threads in sound city about that particular headphone thanks to me.

If you really want wireless then RS180 (headphones only) or a 5.8 mixamp (headphones + mic) are your best bet tbh. If you can get away with wired, grab yourself a set of Q701's for similar money (a guy is selling his in members market for cheap, second hand ones though) and plug them straight into the AVR.
 
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cheers, so much choice makes it very hard.

The ps4 official headsets seem ok but I dont think these would work on other devices.

I guess the RS180 is my best bet if I want wireless.

**perhaps wired is a better bet, I like the look of the Q701's, just not sure if my avr x2000 will be able to drive them ok?
 
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It's an AVR and Denon are quite well known in the audio world. Should drive them without any issues.

My mixamp struggles a little but can still drive them. They come with very very long cables so you shouldn't have any issues even if you sit a fair distance away. I think it's a 10 foot cable and a 20 foot cable they come with iirc or something like that.
 
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Thanks for the heads up on the q701s on members market.

No problem, if you had asked earlier you could have gotten them for £90 excluding delivery from america. I paid £120 for mine brand new with delivery and customs. They are £220-£300 here though so £120-£150 easy in the second hand market.

They won't sound very good driven by a phone or a normal pc sound card, your AVR should be capable though.

They aren't forgiving of poor audio sources of weak amps though, they require decent source signal and quality files.

Soundstage on them is phenomenal for gaming like I say you need to spend around £300 brand new to get better headphones and even then they will only be marginally better.
 
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How are people using their HyperX Cloud with their PS4 (in terms of connections)?
I have this headset myself, I don't have a PS4 yet but I have tried it on a friends console.

2 options:
Get some kind of cheap USB to 3.5mm*2 'soundcard' from amazon, which usually only cost a few £. This will give you stereo sound, I cant comment on the quality or volume with these particular earphones as I haven't tried it myself.

The second option is to get an astro mixamp either new for £110 or off ebay. The 2013 versions are guaranteed to work with the PS4, when I say work I mean you don't need to bother with a turtle beach chat cable to get speech through the mixamp so you save on clutter. My 2011 mixamp works the same as the 2013 version but i'm told its hit and miss whether older mixamps will work without a chat cable or not.

If you decide to get a mixamp the setup will go like this:
Headset(3.5mm*2) > Splitter > Mixamp(Optical and USB) >> PS4
If you cant get voice chat to work through USB then you will need a chat cable running from the DS4 controller to the 'controller' port on the mixamp (someone correct me if im wrong)

The USB cable powers the mixamp as well as providing chat audio, so you will need to have it plugged into the PS4 if you intend to speak to anyone in game. The mixamp has an inbuilt amplifier as well as producing virtual 5.1/7.1 surround sound. The wireless mixamp will also work but I don't have one of those to comment on it.
 
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To really take advantage of any decent headphones you need to use HDMI or optical as your source not usb and definetely not the controller , therefore you require a DAC/AMP. If you want to take advantage and use voice chat then a mixamp is the only real option.

If you don't want to spend a lot then use USB it's in the middle for quality between the controller and optical/hdmi
 
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