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I do love how more and more people agree that the S2 is far more rugged than all the moaners were saying when it was first released. With a bumper mine has been pretty much indestructible over the past 2 years.
 
Looking forward to seeing what Samsung have to announce. I'm hoping its not just another Android slab with a spec bump over last years model as that's getting really tedious and boring. Hopefully Samsung will finally show something Android wise that's competitive with iOS.
 
When is it due to be on sale? Next month? Or don't we know an exact date yet and will find out next Thursday?
 
What makes you say Android currently isn't competitive with iOS? As far as I can see they both do the same things at the same smooth pace and the only difference being layout and method of how you go about playing with it.
 
I doubt we'll see a retrograde step like that from Samsung, I presume it's gonna be better than the S3 or Note 2 and thus even more better than the i5.

I don't think the S3 or Note 2 are better than the iPhone 5 though... that's why I'm hoping we'll see something that's more competitive from Samsung.

What makes you say Android currently isn't competitive with iOS? As far as I can see they both do the same things at the same smooth pace and the only difference being layout and method of how you go about playing with it.

I really dislike how it's slow and stuttery at times, and it's generally not up to the levels of polish and perfection that I expect from my mobile devices. Samsung seem to be best placed to fix all of that, and I really hope they do.

Here's hoping Samsung keep the physical home button too and don't follow the crowd in that respect. I *love* the physical home button on my iPhone 5 and my recently sold S3.
 
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I guess we'll just have to agree to dfiffer then :)

Indeed. I've tried the Note 2 once, and the S3 three times, and I just cannot bring myself to like either of them more than the iPhone 5. The ergonomics are a big issue with devices the size of the S3 and Note 2. I really dislike the side mounted power button. I wish they'd put it on the top so that I wasn't constantly accidentally squeezing the volume rocker when trying to press the power button.
 
Slow and stuttery is not what I'd call Android at all on any of the current top phones. It is as smooth as any iOS device and the experience is just as eye pleasing.

If your phone had stuttering issues then it was faulty, had a rogue app or low spec unfortunately.
 
Slow and stuttery is not what I'd call Android at all on any of the current top phones. It is as smooth as any iOS device and the experience is just as eye pleasing.

If your phone had stuttering issues then it was faulty, had a rogue app or low spec unfortunately.

I must have had 3 faulty S3s, 1 faulty Note 2 and 1 faulty Nexus 4 then! They all had perceptible stutters and frame drops in comparison to the iPhone 5, that's for sure. I'm really hoping Samsung manage to fix all of that but I have a feeling it's a fundamental issue with Android that Google needs to fix.
 
There isn't a big difference at all but the iPhone 5 zips along more smoothly than other phones (all the ones I've tried anyway, no Xperia Z or HTC One yet).

It's a really small difference though and will no doubt be due to Android doing more in the background in real use - not testing scenarios etc.
 
There isn't a big difference at all but the iPhone 5 zips along more smoothly than other phones (all the ones I've tried anyway, no Xperia Z or HTC One yet).

It's a really small difference though and will no doubt be due to Android doing more in the background in real use - not testing scenarios etc.

I've no idea what all my Android devices were doing in the background to cause the stuttering and frame drops. It certainly wasn't anything useful or productive though!
 
All I can say is my Note 2 has no such issue whereas the S3 did at times and that was largely due to the 1GB RAM on it.

A video I posted a while back showed just show fluid the Note 2 is in my configuration during actual use.
 
That opinion won't be popular in here! :p

You aren't alone though (even if I don't have those issues myself). I know where you're coming from - I often hear others saying the same.
 
All I can say is my Note 2 has no such issue whereas the S3 did at times and that was largely due to the 1GB RAM on it.

A video I posted a while back showed just show fluid the Note 2 is in my configuration during actual use.

Maybe I'm just more demanding and less tolerant of these issues and hiccups? I had the S3 LTE which has 2GB of RAM and I still saw the issue, so it appears throwing more RAM at a device doesn't solve it either. I'm convinced with the specs these devices have they should be running as smoothly as my iPhone 5, if not more so, but they aren't, so I can only surmise that it's an issue of software rather than hardware.

What would be interesting to know is whether Google can fix this by tacking on new code to the existing Android code base, or whether they'd need to rewrite the entire OS from the ground up so that's it's more suited for the hardware it runs on.
 
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All I can say is my Note 2 has no such issue whereas the S3 did at times and that was largely due to the 1GB RAM on it.

A video I posted a while back showed just show fluid the Note 2 is in my configuration during actual use.

But but but what about as all the old tech heads that told me the extra gig was window dressing that I'd never notice in reasl use that it would be a waste like all the extra ppi that a human eye couldn't possibly see.
 
Maybe I'm just more demanding and less tolerant of these issues and hiccups? I had the S3 LTE which has 2GB of RAM and I still saw the issue, so it appears throwing more RAM at a device doesn't solve it either. I'm convinced with the specs these devices have they should be running as smoothly as my iPhone 5, if not more so, but they aren't, so I can only surmise that it's an issue of software rather than hardware.

What would be interesting to know is whether Google can fix this by tacking on new code to the existing Android code base, or whether they'd need to rewrite the entire OS from the ground up so that's it's more suited for the hardware it runs on.

I don't tolerate half a job and stuttering issues would have to be fixed either with a custom ROM and kernel like I did on the S3 or a new phone that didn't need such things being done (Note 2). I think I'm more anal about these things than most people here in fact :p

Because of my experience with the Note 2 I'm less inclined to change phones now and only do so if there's a significant improvement in key areas in phones like the S4 - I can't see that being the case though, not in the S4 anyway. The next milestone will be flexible displays for me. Oh, and waterproofing.

But but but what about as all the old tech heads that told me the extra gig was window dressing that I'd never notice in reasl use that it would be a waste like all the extra ppi that a human eye couldn't possibly see.

No idea what those people were on about :p My Note 2 has the exact same setup the S3 did, just on a bigger screen.
 
I don't tolerate half a job and stuttering issues would have to be fixed either with a custom ROM and kernel like I did on the S3 or a new phone that didn't need such things being done (Note 2). I think I'm more anal about these things than most people here in fact

I just save myself the hassle of all that and buy an iPhone instead hehe :)
 
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