*** The Official Samsung Galaxy S4 Thread ***

@matt100

"wrong" because I have a different opinion to yours on the look/design of something :rolleyes:

There is nothing wrong with it really but compare the design of those things to HTC/nexus phones, they aren't as nice, not a deal breaker obviously and certainly aren't worth worrying about, but improving all those wee things helps to improve the design/look overall, you can't just change one thing and not change the other as it will look out of place etc.

Have had no problems with the touch capacitive buttons on my S and in fact I don't think I have seen anyone mention that they have had problems with capacitive touch buttons or even on screen buttons, at least on threads here and on xda. In fact, physical hardware buttons are generally consider to not be the best for durability, which is largely why a lot of the phones are moving to capacitive/on screen now (less hardware parts needed so allows for better design and in theory less bezel)

white objects will mark in general compared to darker colours, the white GS 3 was no different, look through the gs 3 thread and people have said that their white GS 3 has gone yellowy or blue from their jeans iirc, will try to find the posts.

My parents lumia 800's are still in great condition, the only disadvantage with the sort of finish is fingerprints/marks but they wipe of easily and yes the lumia 800 is rather heavy, however, it feels very good in the hand due to the design and rounded edges. Also iirc a lot of people complain about the back of their GS 3's getting scratched easily (not that it is an issue really as you can replace it easily)

Of course having rounded/curvy corners will help with the feel in the hand, but Samsung went too far with the GS 3 and the phone just looked weird due to that as he top corners weren't as rounded/curvy.

In your case that is but not mine and many many others as if you look through the one S thread here, not just from my screenshots but from sarge, skillmister, kona etc. the battery life is superb and only truly beat by the likes of the note II, RAZR HD/MAXX

Yes the screen isn't anything to shout about from the rooftops, only really the sharpness/pentile let it down (personally I don't have a problem with pentile), imo it is great and most definitely did not deserve the harsh comments from review sites, yes it is not sharp like the GS 3 and not big but the calibration is probably the best for SAMOLED I have seen, great whites as has been proven with anandtech's detailed look at the screen, one of the best SAMOLED screen for view ability in sunshine too.

A cheap one X........

- aluminium uni-body
- better audio (before JB on the X)
- much better CPU chipset overall and thus was a better performer by a good bit until the X got JB
- better 1080P recording

The only downsides of it compared to the X was lack of NFC, screen and storage.

Anyway, why drift of course, we were only talking about the design, not what is a better phone overall etc.



I agree with you on the part where no matter what HTC etc. do, they will still not go anywhere where as Samsung once again will and everything else you said in the last part of your post.

@grudas

It is a mobile forum for discussion, comparisons are going to be made to other phones, people are talking about the design/comfort compared to other phones and I posted what I think (the one S design is the exact same more or less as the X but smaller), is there a law all of a sudden that we can't compare phones or sorry just the one S? When was the last time I compared the One S to another phone?

I mentioned one thing about the one S, which is on topic with the other posts, the design, nothing else and what I said is true for me and others, it was then matt who started to discuss the other stuff, which I have replied to.
 
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Great, more flipping Samsung Plastic :/
I absolutely can't stand the design and feel of my S3 but have stuck to it because it has the right features (sd card, removable batt) that I really want in a phone. I was hoping Samsung would at least come up with something new or use new materials.

However we all know that Sammy will have the right blend of hardware and features yet again for this next iteration.

The S3 is fantastic to hold imo, can't understand the plastic hate.
 
I think people hate on plastic a little too much, it was the tacky gloss finish I had issue with. Plastic as a material is perfect for phones. Gloss is horrid though. :(
 
I had no issues with the NLED, I can't even guess what your issue with the ear piece is, the physical home button is personal preference, I prefer to be able to feel it without having to look and I trust mechanics a bit more than software to be honest..

Agree.

The One X white polycarbonate marked up very badly which the white S3 didn't, the lumia 800 (yes I've had both) weighed a ton and again started looking shiny after a while in a pocket and the whole point about the ergonomics is that it sits in the hand well, more squared off corners wouldn't help that.

Agree but I think a better, nicer feeling material could potentially be used. My One X didn't have any marks on it, I'm not interested in the "well if you drop it" kind of stuff, but I suspect your average person might be.

But we're clearly on different pages here which is why it's good to have choice! I had a One S for a while and the edged got knocked up and damaged in a way my iPhone 5 hasn't managed, the screen was pretty poor, the battery was poor and overall it just felt like what it was, a cheap One X.

Oh boy. Don't poke the bear. :p

That's not to say I wouldn't mind a flagship phone in that size package, sorry, flagship android phone, I guess the iPhone 5 delivers that but in a very different way.

Agree, this is why I have one.


Either way, and I know I'm sort of questioning the reason for a forum even existing.. but there's barely any point debating this. Its completely obvious the path samsung are going to take, it will be wildly successful no doubt, HTC won't be, thats unfortunately another fact that its fairly obvious to see.

All true.

And whilst we're at it, it's worth noting that HTC or Nokia or whoever could make a 4" 1080 phone with a 3000mah removable battery with 64gb on board and a micro sd slot all at a sensible price and they would likely STILL get nowhere.

Carrier and retailer support is something that is never talked about but makes the world of difference, if your handset is better marketed, or slightly cheaper wholesale, or comes to you in an exclusive colour or your staff are directly incentivised (all things samsung literally OWN) etc etc then as a buyer you support that company.

Hell if samsung give a higher quarterly rebate to someone like carphone then HTC are already fighting with one hand tied behind their backs. If've been in phones long enough to have seen the "better" phone often gets absolutely nowhere due to the pricing being wrong at a buyer level before it goes anywhere near a customer.

This is all very important stuff that is overlooked, some good points.

The icing on the cake is samsung and apple being the only people who genuinely and effectively market their own products so people go into phone shops asking for an iPhone or a galaxy and if you're on minimum wage.. why would you ever try and talk someone out of that?

It's difficult to describe but there's a feeling of massive uniformity around Apple and to a lesser (but increasing) extent Samsung. The competition just can't match it. The Apple customer support backs them up extremely well and provides huge peace of mind also.

I'm no big fan of the S3 looks, but I don't think it looks bad and it certainly more than does the job. The fact it's backed up by near flawless hardware and software execution is just the icing on the cake. I was really unsure of it to begin with, but once you get it and get used to it, the design really stops being an issue and you just enjoy the device for what it is.
 
I think people hate on plastic a little too much, it was the tacky gloss finish I had issue with. Plastic as a material is perfect for phones. Gloss is horrid though. :(

Yup, I don't mind plastic being used and certainly wouldn't put me of a great phone, although I do much prefer aluminium.

My biggest hate about the gs 3 plastic was mainly just the finish and colour choices.
 
Never could get on with the s3, hated the looks but it did feel good to hold. However, my nexus 4 which replaced it has both the looks and ergonomics. Like someone said, Samsung are unlikely to change the design of a handset which sold so well last time.
 
sorry nexus cba..

ss-89 - s2 sold well and samung changed the design :) but they are going to keep it s3'ish.. look at their latest devices to get the idea.. note 8.0 for e.g.
 
The S3 is fantastic to hold imo, can't understand the plastic hate.

It certainly is it. I was surprised about how good it felt when I first held it (the phone :p). It is a perfect fit for a large hand and a small increase in size will still make the S4 quite acceptable.

I guess most of the plastic haters have never held a plastic phone in their hands (;)) or just prefer to hold a cold slab in their hands. :p Still, each to their own.
 
It certainly is it. I was surprised about how good it felt when I first held it (the phone :p). It is a perfect fit for a large hand and a small increase in size will still make the S4 quite acceptable.

I guess most of the plastic haters have never held a plastic phone in their hands (;)) or just prefer to hold a cold slab in their hands. :p Still, each to their own.

plastic is by no means bad! :) its clearly a huge overreaction, my s2 and my step dads s3 feel solid in hand no problems at all.
 
I think when most people say that they hate the "plastic" of the GS 3 etc. they just mean the "finish", not the "material" as the majority of android phones (and all other types of phones) are plastic, only a few are aluminium. You don't see many, if any complaining about the one X, lumia 800 etc. and other nice plastic phones.
 
I think when most people say that they hate the "plastic" of the GS 3 etc. they just mean the "finish", not the "material" as the majority of android phones (and all other types of phones) are plastic, only a few are aluminium. You don't see many, if any complaining about the one X, lumia 800 etc. and other nice plastic phones.

a lot were complaining about s2.. and that was just a simple glossy finish :) s3 has a nasty finish i really don't like it but :) but the feel of the phone is fine! feels solid in hand which is what i want
 
The biggest problem I had with the S3 was it constantly sliding out of my hands due to the finish and roundedness.
 
@matt100
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goodness me chill out! I said I "think" you're wrong and you clearly "think" I'm wrong.. thats what opinions are!

Aren't we due to call each other nazis or something soon?

Anyway, chill, I never said you weren't entitled to your opinions and one persons experience of something is often entirely different to anothers.

I guess the area where I "think" you're wrong and I reckon I can back it up is all the longing for a different design on the S4 and saying "people want" etc like it's a fact when it clearly isn't, it's the 2nd best selling smartphone in the world (I guess? unless something like a cheap ass Asha sneaks in for volume) so what people want is very obviously the S3, you couldn't have something fundamentally flawed that was that successful.
 
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