**** The Official Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ Thread ****

I was really quite excited in the build-up to this, but now I'm not quite so keen. The price is an issue to a degree, but Samsung can't afford to look like a 'cheap' brand, therefore I'm not surprised that they've more or less priced it the same as an Apple product, since that's who they're trying to compete with, not Xiaomi or OnePlus (not that there's anything wrong with those brands). The trouble is, they're still trying to recover from the Note 7 fiasco, so i think there was more room for sweeteners beyond a set of headphones. For example, if the UK had got the Gear VR included with a purchase, that might have swung me.

On top of that, there are other things that come across as penny-pinching. I'd expect an £800 phone to include EVERYTHING, not just a new screen. Where's the 6gb RAM, the stereo speakers, the twin lens camera and the 4100mAh battery? These are the sorts of things I want to see if I'm to buy a phone like this. YES the screen looks outstanding, but every phone's going to have the same thing within the year and I'm too old to have to have everything I want right now. I can wait if I think I'm going to get value in doing so.
 
mulpsmebeauty said:
I was really quite excited in the build-up to this, but now I'm not quite so keen. The price is an issue to a degree, but Samsung can't afford to look like a 'cheap' brand, therefore I'm not surprised that they've more or less priced it the same as an Apple product, since that's who they're trying to compete with, not Xiaomi or OnePlus (not that there's anything wrong with those brands). The trouble is, they're still trying to recover from the Note 7 fiasco, so i think there was more room for sweeteners beyond a set of headphones. For example, if the UK had got the Gear VR included with a purchase, that might have swung me.

On top of that, there are other things that come across as penny-pinching. I'd expect an £800 phone to include EVERYTHING, not just a new screen. Where's the 6gb RAM, the stereo speakers, the twin lens camera and the 4100mAh battery? These are the sorts of things I want to see if I'm to buy a phone like this. YES the screen looks outstanding, but every phone's going to have the same thing within the year and I'm too old to have to have everything I want right now. I can wait if I think I'm going to get value in doing so.
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All phone companies set themselves up so they can improve incrementally, samsung will never have all that at the same time as their cpu upgrade, cpu upgrades are too slow and a 2 year cycle is too slow for them. This processor will be around for 2 years, next galaxy range will probably NOT have 6gb, as they can upgrade the camera and fingerprint sensor location and speakers, they will likely upgrade the ram for either the note 8 or note 9, but I don't see them upgrading all of the above at the same time. It would put them in a struggle to upgrade in the future.
 
The more I think about the screen the more I would have preffered 16:9 aspect ratio @ 5.2" and 5.8". Keep the slim bezels.

18.5:9 is something nobody asked for and it just makes the phone unnecessarily and oddly tall looking and hard to reach. Plus messes with the majority of video content out there.

I hope Oneplus and the Pixel team don't copy this screen fad.
 
CaptainComedy said:
All phone companies set themselves up so they can improve incrementally, samsung will never have all that at the same time as their cpu upgrade, cpu upgrades are too slow and a 2 year cycle is too slow for them. This processor will be around for 2 years, next galaxy range will probably NOT have 6gb, as they can upgrade the camera and fingerprint sensor location and speakers, they will likely upgrade the ram for either the note 8 or note 9, but I don't see them upgrading all of the above at the same time. It would put them in a struggle to upgrade in the future.
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I'm sure you're correct, but aspiring companies (even Samsung aspire to Apple's success) can't afford to hold back. I'm sure the OnePlus 5 or whatever they call it will have everything and the kitchen sink thrown into it. Apple can afford to take it easy because so many people buy their products because 'it's an Apple'. I'm sure that Samsung has a lot of brand presence, but the Galaxy brand is much less recognised than the iPhone. Samsung could try and change that by making their phones the best they could be and then relying on design tweaks every year to keep on the top of the pile.
 
mulpsmebeauty said:
I was really quite excited in the build-up to this, but now I'm not quite so keen. The price is an issue to a degree, but Samsung can't afford to look like a 'cheap' brand, therefore I'm not surprised that they've more or less priced it the same as an Apple product, since that's who they're trying to compete with, not Xiaomi or OnePlus (not that there's anything wrong with those brands). The trouble is, they're still trying to recover from the Note 7 fiasco, so i think there was more room for sweeteners beyond a set of headphones. For example, if the UK had got the Gear VR included with a purchase, that might have swung me.

On top of that, there are other things that come across as penny-pinching. I'd expect an £800 phone to include EVERYTHING, not just a new screen. Where's the 6gb RAM, the stereo speakers, the twin lens camera and the 4100mAh battery? These are the sorts of things I want to see if I'm to buy a phone like this. YES the screen looks outstanding, but every phone's going to have the same thing within the year and I'm too old to have to have everything I want right now. I can wait if I think I'm going to get value in doing so.
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4Gb RAM is plenty IMO and t
Anything more is just overkill. Also stereo speakers on a phone aren't important for me. Neither is a dual camera. Yes they are nice to have but I'd rather have a top performing single lens.

As for the battery yes it could be bigger but at what cost. Making the phone bigger and heavier? Samsung will have done many tests with the specs to make sure it lasts and with the SoC and 7.0 the battery optimizations will really help. Not only that but the phone display is set to full HD+ by default so that will also help.

The changes and improvements they have made are more than adequate for me to upgrade from an LG G4.
 
kona786 said:
Not as plentiful as the asking price ;)
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Yeah and I want a phone that I know will have plentiful RAM in two years time. I want to upgrade because new tech makes me fancy it, rather than because I suddenly need 6Gb RAM to keep things running smoothly. I don't see why a true flagship should deny me these things.
 
Can anyone confirm whether the S8 (+) has 4k video recording?

I just went to take a look at CPW and it only went QHD (2560x1440 equivelent). My S6e has 4K so isn't that a step backwards?

Have we decided where the best deal is for this now? I'm going to ring three and see what they can offer me, but i need an unlocked handset as i visit NZ quite often - and will be moving out there later this year?

Cheers
 
You guys know if you want cheaper phones, Samsung has these too so it's not like they only have S and Note ranges, they have bottom and middle of the market covered too, this is their top range.

If you want the best you have to pay, it's been always like that. Remember when phones were all shoddy plastic 10 years ago and still coated £500? Think of the inflation since then and calculate how much £500 from 2005 would be nowadays.
 
I read this gem today:

However, Samsung has unveiled a brand-new, 10nm processor on the S8, and that makes a huge difference. For comparison, the S7's was 14nm, and this is one of the factors that's allowed Samsung to shrink the bezels so much compared to this: (Picture of S7)
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I don't think I can facepalm harder.

Apparently moving to a 10nm manufacturing node allows you to make phone bezels smaller.
 
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