***The Official Starfield Thread*** (As endorsed by TNA)

[Brackish]

Who else thinks an app for inventory sorting and skills tree would be helpful? Given there is a lot to do in the game it would save time and help some people progress.
Would be a huge help to me who has limited time to game so if I could sort my ship and inventory from an app then it means I can just crack on exploring and shooting lasers.

 

[Tombstone]

Had a quick play with outposts, unless enforced I have no intention of touching that aspect of the game, at least I didn't have to connect wires though.

Is the base building fiddly as all hell like Bethesda games often are? They generally dont have "grid" layout so trying to get 2 items to actually be straight in line with each other or at a perfect 90 degrees was super super frustrating. Is it the same in Starfield or do they use a grid system now for it?

 

[Neil79]

Had a fight with some Pirates, became encumbered and my character's view kept on bluring and pulsing in and out. I felt so damn sick!

 

[TNA]

Had a quick play with outposts, unless enforced I have no intention of touching that aspect of the game, at least I didn't have to connect wires though.

Same. Not my cup of tea. That stuff is what put me off the latest zelda too in the end. A younger me with more time would have loved it, but just can't be asked with that now.

 

[Bald-Eagle22]

Just made peace with the pirates on ten first mission , and then killed them . Back to the safe and venture on .

 

[Noxia]

Is the base building fiddly as all hell like Bethesda games often are? They generally dont have "grid" layout so trying to get 2 items to actually be straight in line with each other or at a perfect 90 degrees was super super frustrating. Is it the same in Starfield or do they use a grid system now for it?

Not gone in deep enough but I put down a 'miner' and I put down a solar power thing nearby and that powered it, so that bit at least was easy. Someone else probably better placed to answer as I've not used interconnecting modules. If it's anything like ship modules though it will be simple to connect.

Same. Not my cup of tea. That stuff is what put me off the latest zelda too in the end. A younger me with more time would have loved it, but just can't be asked with that now.

Yeah same! Teenage me would have been all over that.

Sarah just bollocked me for blowing up a friendly ship, "Constellation are not murderers" well ****, I best stop playing then.

 

[Kelt]

There's a new version of neutral LUT's out, V 1.3.

Also this:

Smooth Ship Reticle (120fps Smooth UI)

Fixes the spaceship targeting reticle looking choppy. Also includes an option to boost every UI element to 120fps!

www.nexusmods.com

Gets rid of the stuttery stutter on the ship's reticle, something I noticed and was bugged by.

 

[PitterPatter]

Does anyone else feel overwhelmed by this game? I just got to the part where you join the group of people looking for alien artifacts, I looked around the City and ended up in some museum or something. On the first mission I give all my loot to the robot, but now the woman is following me around and the robot has buggered off with all my loot probably spending it on CPUs and memory, where is he and where do I sell the loot?

Don’t worry about the loot, you’ll get plenty of stuff just by doing the missions. I had had the exact same thing happen to me… now i would happily give Sarah anything just to **** off and leave me in peace

 

[Calin Banc]

Not really - because he made a whole video moaning he didn't get a review copy before he started playing it. I followed him for years, long before many here because he is funny. But when he gets no review copy he gets grumpy and then he gets in a huff like somehow the companies are hiding everything. But it was quite clear no UK reviewers got review copies. Some are implying Microsoft are being petty over UK regulators blocking that deal.

So I knew yesterday the review was going to be bad. He also tends to calls out other reviewers quite a bit.

He then goes on about No Man's Sky on how it's better but it isn't an RPG with hardly any RPG elements or real characters, but he moans that this isn't a good RPG.He basically played the game for a day. The other reviewers put in dozens of hours. Some stated as much as 100 hours. So at least some of their negative points actually come from giving the game a good look through.

He did the same with the Witcher 3 and dunked on it. Implied it was more an action adventure game for console players. Whereas I did agree with some aspects of the combat system being rubbish and made for consoles , and I prefer settings like in Mass Effect, The Witcher 3 is still a masterpiece of an RPG game. He ended up deleting the video after he got into a fight with the CDPR fans. That whole fight was entertaining in its own right!

I know the Witcher video, kinda agreed with him and kinda agree with him now, but I still find plenty of fun (until now anyway) doing what there is inside the game. That's about it in general, depends what you'd like from a game (especially when devs pumps it up like crazy) and what it really is. I do think it comes short of what it should be, it just ... Bethesda. Concepts of different elements, insufficiently developed, with the community picking up the slack and doing what they don't for free. A bit resembles with Bohemia and their ArmA series, but worse...

It is because Bethesda Games Studio has made sure the textures can fit into 8GB of VRAM so some textures are great and others not so great.Some reviewers have commented on this,and it should have had more options for cards with more VRAM. That means we might get an HD pack in the future,but modders will probably release some of their own textures before that.

Considering how demanding the game is, better textures would have been fine.

How do you play the game with all that down the side is it not a bit distracting….

If I play it at 1440p or 4k (downscaled to 1080p), those stats are smaller. But in this case I just turn them on if I need to check something.

I've seen that mentioned a lot (IE that GPU usage is 100% but the power draw is a fraction of what it should be at 100% load).

What would even cause that?

Under utilization, apparently - aka bad coding. Seems plausible. They focused on AMD and that's that.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1698245856724476146

That is about what I get on my 6950XT at 3440x1440 ultra preset. You don't have dynamic scaling on do you? that option kills fps for me for some odd reason.

All upscaling is off, including dynamic resolution.

I have a 5700x and a 4070 both undervolted and the 4070 is underclocked (still higher than ref nvidia card but my asus is 350mhz or something stupid higher than the ref card out the box and oc's to 3-3.1ghz and 500mhz on the ram - see 8Packs review on the ocuk YT video if you want more info) and I get 52-60 fps at 1440p ultra natively with dynamic resolution scaling off, and with the dlss2 mod by puredark I get 90-110fps...

Something is definitely wrong with your system? FWIW I haven't updated my gpu drivers either, I just installed whatever was out on the 26th august when I bought the card and haven't touched them since - IIRC the driver I chose was like 8 days old at the time.

So maybe it's a driver issue for you?

Is not me, is general. Usually it goes higher than that, is more like an edge case.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I know the Witcher video, kinda agreed with him and kinda agree with him now, but I still find plenty of fun (until now anyway) doing what there is inside the game. That's about it in general, depends what you'd like from a game (especially when devs pumps it up like crazy) and what it really is. I do think it comes short of what it should be, it just ... Bethesda. Concepts of different elements, insufficiently developed, with the community picking up the slack and doing what they don't for free. A bit resembles with Bohemia and their ArmA series, but worse...

I wonder if he ever liked Mass Effect? RPG game with spaceflight,multiple planets with gated areas to expore,clunky combat,etc. Starfield reminds me of that style of game.

Considering how demanding the game is, better textures would have been fine.

I am a bit surprised TBH. You would think they could have targetted 10~12GB for the higher end AMD/Nvidia cards which all have at least 10~12GB of VRAM. Makes me wonder if this was originally meant to be released maybe in 2020/2021 with the launch of the XBox Series X.

Under utilization, apparently - aka bad coding. Seems plausible. They focused on AMD and that's that.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1698245856724476146

They probably focussed on RDNA2 in the consoles,because Microsoft now owns Bethesda games studio.

But on the flipside Fallout 4 massively loves Nvidia dGPUs to the extent AMD cards are underutilised in the game(the benchmark thread shows this),and it was a bit ropey on consoles.

 

[Jono8]

I wonder if he ever liked Mass Effect? RPG game with spaceflight,multiple planest with gated areas to expore,clunky combat,etc. Starfield reminds me of that style of game.



I am a bit surprised TBH. You would think they could have targetted 10~12GB for the higher end AMD/Nvidia cards which all have at least 10~12GB of VRAM. Makes me wonder if this was originally meant to be released maybe in 2020/2021 with the launch of the XBox Series X.



They probably focussed on RDNA2 in the consoles,because Microsoft now owns Bethesda games studio.

But on the flipside Fallout 4 massively loves Nvidia dGPUs to the extent AMD cards are underutilised in the game(the benchmark thread shows this),and it was a bit ropey on consoles.

Hm, I hope they didn't intentionally hobble Nvidia.

Well, they probably didn't as such, but perhaps they just didn't put any work into optimization for Nvidia architecture compared to AMD.

I've seen this mention of 100% usage but low power draw on Nvidia cards a lot now.

 

[Mik3]

Don’t worry about the loot, you’ll get plenty of stuff just by doing the missions. I had had the exact same thing happen to me… now i would happily give Sarah anything just to **** off and leave me in peace

OK cheers pal.

Does anyone know how to add weapons to the weapon wheel, when pressing Q?

 

[Neil79]

Glorified looter shooter.. Yep! Skyrim WOW'd me, this hasn't I'm still playing it though, but meh

 

[mrk]

I know the Witcher video, kinda agreed with him and kinda agree with him now, but I still find plenty of fun (until now anyway) doing what there is inside the game. That's about it in general, depends what you'd like from a game (especially when devs pumps it up like crazy) and what it really is. I do think it comes short of what it should be, it just ... Bethesda. Concepts of different elements, insufficiently developed, with the community picking up the slack and doing what they don't for free. A bit resembles with Bohemia and their ArmA series, but worse...


Considering how demanding the game is, better textures would have been fine.


If I play it at 1440p or 4k (downscaled to 1080p), those stats are smaller. But in this case I just turn them on if I need to check something.


Under utilization, apparently - aka bad coding. Seems plausible. They focused on AMD and that's that.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1698245856724476146

All upscaling is off, including dynamic resolution.



Is not me, is general. Usually it goes higher than that, is more like an edge case.

I knew it, the moment I saw my CPU and GPU utilisation being spazzy to the testicles during dialogue cutscenes I knew something was up. I can't believe people tried to say that's CPU bottlenecking

 

[Kelt]

OK cheers pal.

Does anyone know how to add weapons to the weapon wheel, when pressing Q?

I'm using a controller, and you add to the d-pad by selecting favourites from the inventory.

I'm assuming it's the same method for m/kb.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Hm, I hope they didn't intentionally hobble Nvidia.

Well, they probably didn't as such, but perhaps they just didn't put any work into optimization for Nvidia architecture compared to AMD.

Well,look at Fallout 4:

That is from the OcUK forums Fallout 4 benchmark thread me and @KompuKare run. Have you noticed how AMD cards do relative to Nvidia ones? This was an Nvidia sponsored title too,but had a console version and those have GCN/Polaris designs. There was virtually no optimisation for AMD dGPUs from launch. It was quite evident even looking at some reviews.10~20% better performance on Nvidia. Nobody cared! Bethesda games studio certainly didn't!

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Glorified looter shooter.. Yep! Skyrim WOW'd me, this hasn't I'm still playing it though, but meh

He keeps going on about No Mans Sky though. So he can't really care about the RPG aspects,NPCs,etc - he wanted an exploration game with none of that. That is No Mans Sky. Yet he didn't like Fallout 76 which was literally that and had a huge map and no real NPCs(that was the emptiest game I played).

 

[Tombstone]

Well,look at Fallout 4:

That is from the OcUK forums Fallout 4 benchmark thread me and @KompuKare run. Have you noticed how AMD cards do relative to Nvidia ones? This was an Nvidia sponsored title too,but had a console version and those have GCN/Polaris designs. There was virtually no optimisation for AMD dGPUs from launch. It was quite evident even looking at some reviews.10~20% better performance on Nvidia. Nobody cared! Bethesda games studio certainly didn't!

Thats an awesome Eve Online screenshot

 

[Neil79]

He keeps going on about No Mans Sky though. So he can't really care about the RPG aspects,NPCs,etc - he wanted an exploration game with none of that. Yet he didn't like Fallout 76 which was literally that and had a huge map and no real NPCs(that was the emptiest game I played).

I loved Fallout, all of them! Skyrim, Oblivion hooked! But this, it feels like a massive step back. I'm still going to play it, but this is one of the worst Bethesda games i've played so far!

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I loved Fallout, all of them! Skyrim, Oblivion hooked! But this, it feels like a massive step back. I'm still going to play it, but this is one of the worst Bethesda games i've played so far!

I will give a fair chance and see how I feel about it. I even gave Mass Effect Andromeda a chance,after I manage to make the characters look less wonky. But Fallout:London is out soon,so might get sidetracked by that too!

Thats an awesome Eve Online screenshot

Well if you have some time,a few more results to the benchmark thread in the CPU section won't go amiss!