***The Official Starfield Thread*** (As endorsed by TNA)

[Noxia]

Now for those who actually want to talk about the game. I am doing the UC Vanguard missions and they are turning out to be more fun than I expected. Certainly better than the 5-6 main story missions I have done so far anyway.

Maybe @lovelyhead you should give them a go and come discuss with us your thoughts. Would be fun to see which way you bash these quests

It would have to be coherent and eloquent for it to be fun, also actually have some thought put behind it. Like the other 99% of posters who don't like it but can articulate why without sounding like a miserable shut-in.

 

[TNA]

You can go to everything you see in Starfield but there is nothing to do when you get to most of it. How is that any better than Mass Effect (a 16 year old game!). I would rather have the content that is there be in a tight knit area like Mass Effect rather than vast spaces with sparce content like Starfield.



Let me do it for you. See below.



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Perhaps instead of constantly whining about my posts upsetting your feelings, just pop me on ignore and you no longer need to hear from me. I will put you both on ignore too so I won't be replying to your moan posts anymore. Enjoy your game and I will enjoy writing about how poor it is. Bye.

As I said then nothing of recent. Those are all over a week old. And all the ones I read are all naturally negative. Lol.

Who is whinging here? I am not upset and my feelings are not hurt. I was kindly telling you the issue people are having. But it seems your feelings got hurt and you are projecting. I really don't know why though honestly. I did not saying anything hurtful.

I will not be blocking you (I don't block anyone) and I will continue to enjoy your moaning however

 

[Noxia]

Imagine spending time baiting people and they don't even care enough to ignore you. embarrassing.

Going to try and build an outpost today just so I can say I've done it. Help me research a few things too.

 

[Neil79]

Apart from a couple of woke snowfl&kes in the movie/tv section I haven't blocked anyone else!

 

[BeeP]

Apart from a couple of woke snowfl&kes in the movie/tv section I haven't blocked anyone else!

I Must tray harder.....wait can you read this?

 

[Neil79]

I Must tray harder.....wait can you read this?

No

 

[PitterPatter]

So far in my playthrough of the main quest there has only been one single mission that stood out for me. It wasn't because it was particularly good or anything, it was because it was clearly ripped off from a famous Titanfall 2 level. Every other mission has been completely forgettable fetch quests. Ok maybe there was a second memorable mission, the one where you have to go talk to a guy at Neon to do a deal to buy the artifact from them. But again this mission was basically just the same as one in Cyberpunk 2077 but Cyberpunk did it way way better.

There is a bit of a recurring theme with Starfield where Bethesda have just blatantly ripped off stuff from other games. You can clearly see they ripped off Mass Effect with the whole touch an artifact and see a vision thing but once again Mass Effect does it better.

The magic artifact plot device is as old as time though. It was hardly ground breaking in ME. It’s essentially the same plot device used in tons of superhero/fantasy movies/comics - albeit some alter it slightly. Radioactive spider, magic ring, magic space rock, magic pendant etc etc etc. Almost every form of media ‘rips off’ others, although they would describe it as taking inspiration.

For example TLoU (using this as it’s often held up as an example of storytelling in games) didn’t do anything groundbreaking story wise. It took inspiration from many other movies, stories and games. What it did well (for some) is translate this into an interactive medium. ME and Cyberpunk also take inspiration from other games, books and so on. Humans have been telling stories for thousands of years so expecting perfectly original writing is a fools game imo.

I really wasn’t expecting terrific writing from this game (or any game for that matter - precious few are). I was hoping it would be enjoyable enough to keep my interest and it has been so far.

 

[roddypoddy]

Been having fun playing Starfield, 7/10 for me, but just started the UC missions, wow, such fun, the game has gone up a notch or two, imho, shame my 3900x is running at 73 plus degrees, but summer is over and this old codger will be happy with the extra warmth from my open side panel.

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

not sure what i need to do now, as supposed to install some bits at the key, but had a 60k crimson key bounty, arriving at the key i offered chance to pay in blood or just pay, so was a bit bored so wiped out the entire key .
the downside was i cant continue with that mission unless i cough up over 500k. where eck i get ha sort of cash from

 

[lovelyhead]

It would have to be coherent and eloquent for it to be fun, also actually have some thought put behind it. Like the other 99% of posters who don't like it but can articulate why without sounding like a miserable shut-in.

Oh I forgot to ignore you too.

The common theme with you guys is that you all go after me rather than what I write. You think it is better to insult me calling me a "d**k head" or "a miserable shut in" rather than actually say something like, "I disagree that the writing is bad, such and such a quest has great writing" or "I don't agree with your opinion regarding the graphics in the game. This area looks amazing".

If you look back at my interactions in this thread you will see that I haven't attacked any of you guys personally for your opinions of the game. I can accept that someone can find enjoyment in the game. I have always attacked the quality of the game itself.

You Noxia, TNA and that other guy's constant personal attacks are bordering on bullying just because you don't like my differing opinion.

Some self reflection might be in order.

 

[lovelyhead]

The magic artifact plot device is as old as time though. It was hardly ground breaking in ME. It’s essentially the same plot device used in tons of superhero/fantasy movies/comics - albeit some alter it slightly. Radioactive spider, magic ring, magic space rock, magic pendant etc etc etc. Almost every form of media ‘rips off’ others, although they would describe it as taking inspiration.

For example TLoU (using this as it’s often held up as an example of storytelling in games) didn’t do anything groundbreaking story wise. It took inspiration from many other movies, stories and games. What it did well (for some) is translate this into an interactive medium. ME and Cyberpunk also take inspiration from other games, books and so on. Humans have been telling stories for thousands of years so expecting perfectly original writing is a fools game imo.

I really wasn’t expecting terrific writing from this game (or any game for that matter - precious few are). I was hoping it would be enjoyable enough to keep my interest and it has been so far.

You are quite right. Do they not say there is only 7 basic plots in existence. Some games and movies are able to expand enough on those basic plots to make them interesting but unfortunately Starfield is not one of them.

 

[Tombstone]

No I don't blame the engine!

If it was the engine, why have modders done more for both Skyrim and Bethesda than the developers ever have. It's not the engines fault it doesn't have FOV,DLSS,high quality graphics and character designs etc. The engine is at fault when it comes to poor PC usage! I was going to mention the loading, but then you have open cities in Skyrim which takes away the loading.

So you disagree with what I wrote?

You disagree that Starfield is hampered by its engine? You think it isnt hampered by its engine?

You disagree that Bethesda need to use a more modern engine for its next game? You think that they are fine to use the same engine for their next game?

Because that is literally all I said, I never said the failings of the game are all down to the engine, all I said was that its hampered by its engine. Surprised really that anyone would think its engine doesnt hamper.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

I think the one thing we can all agree on, whether you think Starfield is a 5/10 title or a 10/10 title, is that its a game hampered by its engine and that Bethesda REALLY need to put this engine to bed and use a modern engine for their next title.

It’s really holding them back, but I’m not sure there’s much they can do about it, it’s central to them as a company. I think it works better for games they’ve made other than a space game.

I was doing a quest with Sarah yesterday and there was a loading screen for a 2x2m room, I don’t get why half of them are needed.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Been having fun playing Starfield, 7/10 for me, but just started the UC missions, wow, such fun, the game has gone up a notch or two, imho, shame my 3900x is running at 73 plus degrees, but summer is over and this old codger will be happy with the extra warmth from my open side panel.

The UC missions are a blast, incredibly atmospheric at times too. Some things they absolutely nail in this game.

 

[PitterPatter]

You are quite right. Do they not say there is only 7 basic plots in existence. Some games and movies are able to expand enough on those basic plots to make them interesting but unfortunately Starfield is not one of them.

Fair enough, to be honest i skip thru a lot of the dialogue. I get the gist, magic fidget spinner gives powers and the cloaked Cardassians want it back, especially Caitlin who seems to have special plans for it.

I may have confused that slightly but it’s there or thereabouts.

 

[TNA]

You Noxia, TNA and that other guy's constant personal attacks are bordering on bullying just because you don't like my differing opinion.

Personally attacks... Are you for real? Go get a mod in here and let's see if they agree. I have done nothing of the sort.

 

[Tombstone]

Fair enough, to be honest i skip thru a lot of the dialogue. I get the gist, magic fidget spinner gives powers and the cloaked Cardassians want it back, especially Caitlin who seems to have special plans for it.

I may have confused that slightly but it’s there or thereabouts.

Lol, when I read that, all I could think of was, ark of the covenant gives powers, nazis want it , especially evil archaeologist who has special plans for it, hero protagonist with hat and whip to the rescue

 

[PitterPatter]

Lol, when I read that, all I could think of was, ark of the covenant gives powers, nazis want it , especially evil archaeologist who has special plans for it, hero protagonist with hat and whip to the rescue

Weird cos when i wrote my earlier post I actually had Raiders of the Lost Ark in my mind as well

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Personally attacks... Are you for real? Go get a mod in here and let's see if they agree. I have done nothing of the sort.

I mean…

And yet you’re still playing?

Also, spoiler tags?



You’re not alone.

Not an attack.

Amazing how many people worship some random strangers on the internet and need them to provide validation for their own views.

Not an attack.

You’re about a decade late, we’ve played them. It’s also a shame that the ending made no sense and crapped all over the franchise.

Not an attack.

It’s like you’re stuck on repeat. Just move on.

Not an attack.

Can we actually talk about the game yet? Stop spamming the thread with this over and over again.




The best quests I’ve come across. Huge revelations throughout.

Nah, he’d rather wallow in misery. Imagine posting over and over again in a thread about a game that you don’t like rather than just moving on and enjoying something that you do. I have far too many games on gamepass to care about games I don’t enjoy.

Not an attack.

All I’ve seen is the same post on repeat harping on about Falliut 76 that has been developed for years post realise and a decade old game that all of us played years ago and is one of the greatest games of all time (minus the ending and exploration that was crap).

Not an attack.

Calling out the miserable repetitive waffle posted that derails a discussion about actually playing the game, yes.

Can someone just make a thread for ‘Starfield criticism’ and then we can just get back to talking about playing the game, tips etc. I don’t need to hear about cyberpunk, fallout 76 or star citizen.

 

[Cantankerous]

The engine while old has been iterated on a lot. They have tools and staff that know it inside out. It's more designed for object interactivity rather than high fps. Engines such as unreal are designed for high fps then graphics. It's easy to say they need to move onto a new engine and I don't disagree, however it's a lot of work and a newer engine might not be suitable, tick all the boxes they need etc.

Starfields taken a bit of a back seat to ArmoredCore but I'm a chunk into the main story and have just started the Freestar chain.