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lovelyhead said:
Some people are masochists.

I think the majority of people, going off of Steam reviews, think it is average at best.
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Steam reviews can only be positive or negative - the majority of Steam reviews for Starfield (65.15%) are positive.

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Aegis said:
Steam reviews can only be positive or negative - the majority of Steam reviews for Starfield (65.15%) are positive.

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The last 30 days saw only 54% positive reviews. Compare that to 98% for Baldur's Gate 3 (96% overall) :D I get why some people like it, but the lack of a true open world with little exploration and a boring story killed it for me. Just hope they get it right for ES6.
 
lee32uk said:
The last 30 days saw only 54% positive reviews. Compare that to 98% for Baldur's Gate 3 (96% overall) :D I get why some people like it, but the lack of a true open world with little exploration and a boring story killed it for me. Just hope they get it right for ES6.
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I'm not going to debate the quality of the two games as they're very different products for very different audiences - but I suspect that BG3 has earned its 98% by being an uncommonly well made game *and* a game with a very specific (and under-served) audience - 'proper' CRPG's are pretty thin on the ground these days so if you make one and make it well then it's going to win you a lot of love - and deservedly so.

It doesn't hurt that it was a successful re-imagining of a fondly remembered IP either - plus, it coincided with Dungeons & Dragons seeing a resurgence in popularity due in part to the pandemic, but also the success of streamers like Critical Role.

All you can really glean from Starfield's review numbers is that it's a divisive game - and that's not really adding anything new to the conversation. Some reviews call it a 'loading simulator' - and sure, the loading is egregious and the game would be far better without it - did that stop me from enjoying the game? Absolutely not.

You say the game has little exploration but I've spent many hours discovering derelict ships, space stations and side-quests that take you to a bunch of unique locations - and I had fun doing it - but that's me and if you found it lacking then that's valid too.

Personally I'll never play Baldur's Gate 3 for a multitude of reasons:

I don't like 5th Edition D&D.
I never played the original Baldur's Gate games.
I played a bunch of traditional CRPGs (like the Gold Box stuff from SSI) when they were new and have zero nostalgia for them.
I find the Forgotten Realms to be the blandest, most cookie-cutter of fantasy settings.

Also (subjectively) I find the art style of BG3 to be ugly and unappealing.

That's fine though - BG3 wasn't made for me and I'm happy the people playing it are enjoying themselves and getting to play something that was clearly a passion project for its creators.

What I don't do is hang out on the BG3 thread telling people why they shouldn't enjoy it :)
 
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@TheSwede built a new ship :D

This one isn't as god-tier as the last one but I wanted to try making something out of all-Taiyo parts. Those engines are crazy though (Class C, only 2 power each!) as are the front two turrets (320 305 damage for the pair :eek:)

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Aegis said:
@TheSwede built a new ship :D

This one isn't as god-tier as the last one but I wanted to try making something out of all-Taiyo parts. Those engines are crazy though (Class C, only 2 power each!) as are the front two turrets (320 damage for the pair :eek:)
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Thanks, looks like a cargo ship ?! Would you mind adding a screenie from when in the ship builder so all the stats can be shown ?

On another note, here is a fun video about 'first time' ship building. Or at least I thought the youtube guy was entertaining in the way he made the video ! (ignore the image at first, that ship way to stylish in looks for being a Starfield ship ! :p )

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I Built the Best Ship in Starfield... But I won't Use it

#starfieldgameplay #starfieldshipbuildingguide #starfieldships In this video, we're going to show you everything you need to know to build a ship in the game...
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TheSwede said:
Thanks, looks like a cargo ship ?! Would you mind adding a screenie from when in the ship builder so all the stats can be shown ?

On another note, here is a fun video about 'first time' ship building. Or at least I thought the youtube guy was entertaining in the way he made the video ! (ignore the image at first, that ship way to stylish in looks for being a Starfield ship ! :p )
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Sure - this one shows the stats before the bonuses are applied for skills:

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This one includes the skill bonuses (except for particle beams/turrets oddly - also, ignore the 'value' - that's always wrong):

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It's a considerable downgrade from the other one (slower, less cargo, less crew/passengers and less weapons) but I spent a lot of time looking for the perfect combination of parts on my previous ship whereas this one was more 'what can I build with just this vendor?'

Thanks for the link! I thought this video was neat - it shows the snapping 'trick':

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Building A Minimalist Ship In Starfield

why this is the minimalist ship every player needs in starfield. In this video I'll be showing you how to build a minimalist ship in starfield. It has great ...
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Aegis said:
With that attitude, I doubt he'll be missed. I can't wait for the Creation Kit to drop so I can start making new ship/outpost parts :)

By the way, @mrk - in the short time Starfield has been out, there are 5919 mods on Nexus - which means it'll surpass Cyberpunk (7328) soon :o
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Surely the number of mods a game has, is indicative as to how bad it is?

For example top rated polished games:
GTA V - 514 mods (10 years old)
Mass Effect 3 - 690 mods (11 years old)
Assassins Creed Valhalla -199 mods
God of War - 154 mods
Borderlands 2 - 270 mods
Days Gone - 472 mods
Dying Light - 822 mods
Resident Evil Village - 425 mods
Far Cry 6 - 61 mods
Last of Us - 46 mods
Alan Wake 2 - 21 mods
Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 142 mods

Starfield having 5919 mods in 3 months since release is nothing to brag about, it is a result of the community trying to fix a broken / unfinished game.
Modding is just turd polishing.
 
rumple9 said:
Modding is just turd polishing.
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Tell that to the Skyrim community (68,000+ mods).

Bethesda games have a lot of mods because they make their development tools freely available and the script-based nature of the Creation Engine makes it pretty easy to implement your ideas - I made all of these and they mostly took me minutes to do:


BTW, I see you didn't mention Baldur's Gate 3 (3,900 mods) - yep - what a turd :p
 
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Aegis said:
I'm not going to debate the quality of the two games as they're very different products for very different audiences - but I suspect that BG3 has earned its 98% by being an uncommonly well made game *and* a game with a very specific (and under-served) audience - 'proper' CRPG's are pretty thin on the ground these days so if you make one and make it well then it's going to win you a lot of love - and deservedly so.

It doesn't hurt that it was a successful re-imagining of a fondly remembered IP either - plus, it coincided with Dungeons & Dragons seeing a resurgence in popularity due in part to the pandemic, but also the success of streamers like Critical Role.

All you can really glean from Starfield's review numbers is that it's a divisive game - and that's not really adding anything new to the conversation. Some reviews call it a 'loading simulator' - and sure, the loading is egregious and the game would be far better without it - did that stop me from enjoying the game? Absolutely not.

You say the game has little exploration but I've spent many hours discovering derelict ships, space stations and side-quests that take you to a bunch of unique locations - and I had fun doing it - but that's me and if you found it lacking then that's valid too.

Personally I'll never play Baldur's Gate 3 for a multitude of reasons:

I don't like 5th Edition D&D.
I never played the original Baldur's Gate games.
I played a bunch of traditional CPRGs (like the Gold Box stuff from SSI) when they were new and have zero nostalgia for them.
I find the Forgotten Realms to be the blandest, most cookie-cutter of fantasy settings.

Also (subjectively) I find the art style of BG3 to be ugly and unappealing.

That's fine though - BG3 wasn't made for me and I'm happy the people playing it are enjoying themselves and getting to play something that was clearly a passion project for its creators.

What I don't do is hang out on the BG3 thread telling people why they shouldn't enjoy it :)
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I just expected something better from Bethesda. I have enjoyed some of their previous games like Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 and 4 (Haven't played Fallout 76) and this is easily my least favourite. Not saying I didn't enjoy parts of it (The Crimson Fleet missions were good and I didn't mind some of the ship combat) but the main mission was pretty dull as were most of the companions (Apart from Andreja). I found most of the 1000+ planets to be lifeless and just a copy/paste of the last one. Also having to run everywhere got old quick. Glad I played it, but I doubt I will go back to it even when the DLC drops.

You should at least give BG3 a try if you wait for a price drop. I have never played a D&D game myself or the other two BG games, but I enjoyed my time with BG3.
 
Did a few radiant quests yesterday to make some money for my next ship - one took me to a planet where I found a new power (don't have 'em all yet) - after that I bumped into a ship selling planetary data so I bought a few - they're not important (go to the cave on 'x' and find 'x') but whatever - I wasn't in a rush. Then I came across a 'derelict' ship where the crew was still alive but they all spoke with robot voices and the captain had been murdered :eek:

This game doesn't really do 'horror' but it really nails 'creepy as f...' :D

Oh, I also found a ship where a discharged UC veteran had killed himself 'cause his wife had left him - gave the poor fella a Viking funeral - was the least I could do :(
 
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