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***The Official Vulkan API Thread***

humbug said:
i know what your saying but enough developers know Microsofts game and have no interest in dirty dealing with them.

These developers (Not just DICE/EA) have publicly snubbed Microsoft and called them out on their DX API politics.
Vulkan will enjoy support from some of the biggest names in the industry, Microsofts influence and power in PC Gaming is weak and diminishing.
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I hope you're right.
 
Gregster said:
As a scenario.... If HL3 was tied into SteamOS or Linux only, who here would install either of those to play it? I know I would.
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Nope, not me. Not even if HL3 was free on SteamOS.

I've already tried SteamOS, don't see me going there again.
Linux + Steam is how'd I'd do it if I had to. I agree wit humbug, as an OS for gaming/gamers linux still has a way to go.

I also tink a lot of people are making the assumption that because Vulkan can work in Linux that any game that uses it will have a Linux version.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Nope, not me. Not even if HL3 was free on SteamOS.

I've already tried SteamOS, don't see me going there again.
Linux + Steam is how'd I'd do it if I had to. I agree wit humbug, as an OS for gaming/gamers linux still has a way to go.

I also tink a lot of people are making the assumption that because Vulkan can work in Linux that any game that uses it will have a Linux version.
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Meh Googaly! but as you have tested it, fair comment. I was going to dual boot SteamOS some time back but never got round to it and never really wanted to either and seeing a few comments from other Linux users put me off that as I am far too lazy to learn something new in an OS term unless it is going to give me something I want.
 
Gregster said:
Meh Googaly! but as you have tested it, fair comment. I was going to dual boot SteamOS some time back but never got round to it and never really wanted to either and seeing a few comments from other Linux users put me off that as I am far too lazy to learn something new in an OS term unless it is going to give me something I want.
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If your looking for something that just works, like Windows, forget it...... it will give you a migraine. it gives me a migraine.

At the moment its for 'enthusiasts' its not for gamers, its not even for general use altho that's its intention.

someone needs to grab this by the scuff of the neck and be willing to put a lot of time and work into it before it becomes a viable mainstream OS.
I believe Dell had a go at it and gave up.
 
humbug said:
If your looking for something that just works, like Windows, forget it...... it will give you a migraine. it gives me a migraine.

At the moment its for 'enthusiasts' its not for gamers, its not even for general use altho that's its intention.

someone needs to grab this by the scuff of the neck and be willing to put a lot of time and work into it before it becomes a viable mainstream OS.
I believe Dell had a go at it and gave up.
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Yer, that's pretty much the feedback I got from Linux users and I don't really have the patience for a new OS with little to no gain. Maybe one day but currently doing my website and golfing + gaming is taking up all my spare time :(
 
Gregster said:
Yer, that's pretty much the feedback I got from Linux users and I don't really have the patience for a new OS with little to no gain. Maybe one day but currently doing my website and golfing + gaming is taking up all my spare time :(
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Pah, I think this here Windows thingy has made us all lazy. Remember getting games to run under DOS. All the editing of Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files to squeeze every drop of the memory out of the 640k core ram.

Those were the days. :D
 
maonayze said:
Pah, I think this here Windows thingy has made us all lazy. Remember getting games to run under DOS. All the editing of Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files to squeeze every drop of the memory out of the 640k core ram.

Those were the days. :D
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Agreed. and DOS was fine once you knew the basics but yer, I have certainly got lazy with old age and really not up for having to mess about with this and that to get something working.
 
Its called progress :p, if we were still writing...

mount c c:\games\
mount c D:\ -t cdrom

And all that crap we'd all be insane.

I remember the good 'oll days of "Press Play to load" wait 30 minutes "turn to side two" wait another 30 minutes "Syntax Error"

Fondly but..... no thanks.
 
humbug said:
Its called progress :p, if we were still writing...

mount c c:\games\
mount c D:\ -t cdrom

And all that crap we'd all be insane.

I remember the good 'oll days of "Press Play to load" wait 30 minutes "turn to side two" wait another 30 minutes "Syntax Error"

Fondly but..... no thanks.
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Talking of which and sorry guys for off topic but I see there is a Spectrum console coming out.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2016-02/18/spectrum-vega-plus-passes-target

I will get one for sure :cool: and Probably hate it lol
 
If anyone was interested, you can pull some Vulkan example code and precompiled binaries from here. http://vulkan.gpuinfo.org/examples.php

To get the binaries running you need to pull the entire repository then place the compiled binaries in the bin folder. The majority work on my 7870, some have some minor corruption while 2 do not run at all.

Push constanst and Tesselation demonstrations fail for me, the gears and shadowmap also have some bad glitching.

Just some quick and neat demonstrations of Vulkan working.
 
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humbug said:
Its called progress :p, if we were still writing...

mount c c:\games\
mount c D:\ -t cdrom

And all that crap we'd all be insane.

I remember the good 'oll days of "Press Play to load" wait 30 minutes "turn to side two" wait another 30 minutes "Syntax Error"

Fondly but..... no thanks.
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I guess you haven't used linux in about 20 years then.
 
humbug said:
If your looking for something that just works, like Windows, forget it...... it will give you a migraine. it gives me a migraine.

At the moment its for 'enthusiasts' its not for gamers, its not even for general use altho that's its intention.

someone needs to grab this by the scuff of the neck and be willing to put a lot of time and work into it before it becomes a viable mainstream OS.
I believe Dell had a go at it and gave up.
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What does sometimes work is a linux specifically built to do a certain task. Like media centres, NAS' or things like Parted Magic.
They can be customised to be usable.

I guess SteamOS is an attempt at that, but for me it didn't work. I think in that case it was a little too limited. It was sorta like the PC just booted into Steam (or maybe Steam in Big Picture mode, not tried that). As an OS for a proper PC (as opposed to Media Centre or NAS) it was too specific.
I know you can enable the linux desktop, but if you're gonna do that, why not use linux with Steam installed, then you can choose your desktop version and probably get a better one.
I've had limited experience with linux, but I find Ubuntu is the closest to Windows easy of use.

Do I recall that most linux distros don't have TRIM support for SSDs turned on by default? Or if they do they pick a method people question (I think there are like 3 options for TRIM support). You can change it, but I don't believe it's a slider in a menu, it's manually editing an obscure config file with specific commands and flags.
 
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