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*** The Official X1950 Pro Thread ***

Right guys got some stuff sorted with my CPU and Mem and have ran 3DMark 06 again! Some lovely scoring now :D

3DMark Score 5291 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 2011 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2241 Marks

CPU Score 2063 Marks

So thats with my Core 2 Duo e6300 @ 2.33Ghz
My MSI x1950pro 256MB DDR3 @ 621core and 796(1.59ghz) mem! All from CCC

CPU on load is sitting at <60 with the GPU idling @ 44 and hitting <65 during load! VEry nice temps with MSI's custom cooler! :)

Here is my 3D mark link for ya! PRetty good scoring I think

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1142558
 
spookywillow said:
i get just under with an X2 3800 5192 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1137084

second highest score with an x2 and x1950pro single card :D

IM second technically in the e6300 stakes, I dont count the guy at the top since he is running 2 cards with an e6600 not exactly the same set up :P

SO I'm, second highest in the 256mb stakes with an e6300 on ORB!
 
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Any 256mb pro beat me yet?

3DMARK06RESULTS.jpg


I reckon I can break 6K too :p
 
Got my first VPU recovery event today. Was playing Company of Heroes with a mate online and mid way through the game the game froze for a few mins then it resumed but was disconected from the game so i quit. When i got to desktop the resolution was that of the game still and not my default desktop res usually was.

Got the VPU has recovered message and i sent it as it told me to.

Hope this isnt a thing of things to come. As it was using max ingame details with 1600 res and CCC set on High settings which was 4x aa and 8x af and HQ and some other things. Catalyst AI was disabled but that shouldnt have caused the VPU buggering up should it?
 
honestjohn said:
Thanks very much for the ray of hope, Machine.

Also, I just had a thought regarding our issue of signal loss / black screen crash on the HIS ICEQ3 Turbo. Those of us with the problem can run our cards underclocked with the core set at 600-607 Mhz without issue. I'm wondering if there was some kind of production mistake and HIS mistakenly used the GPU's from the standard version which is rated to run at 575 Mhz. on our ICEQ3 Turbo cards. Guess the why's really don't matter as long as we get replacements which work.

I have a HIS X1950 Pro ICEQ3 Turbo 512MB AGP and no problems !!!
As you posted on other forums , your problems started when you (honestjohn)
aggressively overclocked the card , thus over heating the card to the point of crashing.
To solve this, you (honestjohn) I quote "Finally upped Fan-Speed to 100% at all times using ATI Tray Tools",
this may of prematurely worn-out the bearing
due to the fan constantly operating at high rpms for an extended period of time.
So. Please do not brash this truly great product that is well engineered ,
If you choose to push-it past the limits it was designed , that is your decision ..
Overclocking is always a gamble and sometimes we lose !
Sorry my friend.
 
aircooled said:
I have a HIS X1950 Pro ICEQ3 Turbo 512MB AGP and no problems !!!
As you posted on other forums , your problems started when you (honestjohn)
aggressively overclocked the card , thus over heating the card to the point of crashing.
To solve this, you (honestjohn) I quote "Finally upped Fan-Speed to 100% at all times using ATI Tray Tools",
this may of prematurely worn-out the bearing
due to the fan constantly operating at high rpms for an extended period of time.
So. Please do not brash this truly great product that is well engineered ,
If you choose to push-it past the limits it was designed , that is your decision ..
Overclocking is always a gamble and sometimes we lose !
Sorry my friend.



aircooled: ===>You may be right dude. He may have overclocked it (naughty naughty honestjohn :D :D :D I dont remember you saying youve Oc'd it though) But some of us didnt overclock and got this black screen + audio looping crash 'Out Of The Box'. We love this card! I hesitate to get mine RMA'd as I got it to run @ 607MHz. But I want it mint 'Out Of The Box' if possible, It should "do as it says on the tin" shouldnt it?.

honestjohn: ===>Hope you get your card soon m8 and would you kindly post the results of your RMA, hopefully its good.

Machine: ===>I appreciate your posts even after your problems have been sorted m8. Great help. I shall do the same for the benefit of others.
 
Has anyone suffered problems with their keyboard after installing one of these cards?

I got one today and now my keyboard is doing weird things. I know the keyboard is fine because I've tried it on another PC.

This might help someone to diagnose the problem.
While playing BF2 I took my fingers off the board but my character continued to walk forward, even after I had unplugged the keyboard! Sometimes it just stops responding for about 30 seconds or so then I hear a beep and it comes back to life.

Any thoughts welcome.
 
well how gutted am i?

i bought the HIS x1950pro 256mb and thought it had VIVO but it turns out it hasn't :mad: i'm pretty gutted to say the least after i just tried to hook up my skybox to my card :(

if i go crossfire do i have to get the EXACT same card or can i just get the HIS card that DOES have VIVO?
 
aircooled said:
I have a HIS X1950 Pro ICEQ3 Turbo 512MB AGP and no problems !!!
As you posted on other forums , your problems started when you (honestjohn)
aggressively overclocked the card , thus over heating the card to the point of crashing.
To solve this, you (honestjohn) I quote "Finally upped Fan-Speed to 100% at all times using ATI Tray Tools",
this may of prematurely worn-out the bearing
due to the fan constantly operating at high rpms for an extended period of time.
So. Please do not brash this truly great product that is well engineered ,
If you choose to push-it past the limits it was designed , that is your decision ..
Overclocking is always a gamble and sometimes we lose !
Sorry my friend.

Before I go off on my rant. Know this everyone. This user formerly known as Guruboy was terrorizing and trolling an X1950 Pro thread 30 pages long over on Guru3Ds Forum. I dealt with the guy from page 1 of the thread so I know how he posts. He was finally banned from Guru3D Forums and now he is here. See first post in thread below.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=212494

You sir are a LIAR. I NEVER aggressively OVERCLOCKED or un-aggressively Overclocked the HIS Card and you've never even owned a HIS X1950 Pro card. Your current card is a X850XT-PE, supposedly. I said I might "try" to overclock the HIS card someday when someone had asked if I was going to overclock it. Never had the chance to since card was acting up. Furthermore, I never overclock my cards more than just "to try" and then keep them at their defaults. Which is one of the reasons I bought the HIS since it comes Overclocked out of the Box. This way I didn't have to mess with it myself. Guruboy, please direct everyone to the post your speaking of and provide a link to where I stated I aggressively overclocked the card or shut the hell up.
 
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elguwapo said:
honestjohn: ===>Hope you get your card soon m8 and would you kindly post the results of your RMA, hopefully its good.

Thanks elquwapo and from our conversations I think you know who you can believe. Hope you read my post thoroughly above. I use to think Guruboy/aircooled was just a troll. Now I think he's nutz, to follow me to another board after he was banned. He even modified another users handle I'm familiar with (aircool) from Guru3D. Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes after I get the new board in, but that will probably be my last post because as long as I post here Guruboy/aircooled will keep posting wild accusations and garbage. So to spare you all from his torment, I will probably just stop posting here. Good luck with your new HIS board and take care of yourself.
 
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spookywillow said:
well how gutted am i?

i bought the HIS x1950pro 256mb and thought it had VIVO but it turns out it hasn't :mad: i'm pretty gutted to say the least after i just tried to hook up my skybox to my card :(

if i go crossfire do i have to get the EXACT same card or can i just get the HIS card that DOES have VIVO?

I have the AGP HIS X1950 Pro IceQ 3 Turbo 512Mb - this one has AVIVO...

What model is yours? :confused:
 
Koosnaff said:
I have the AGP HIS X1950 Pro IceQ 3 Turbo 512Mb - this one has AVIVO...

What model is yours? :confused:

They all have AVIVO, but VIVO is different. Just to clarify VIVO stands for Video-In/Video-Out which means you can hookup a DVD Player, VHS Player, Camcorder, etc. directly to Video Card using a cable such as a composite or S-Video and capture Video from the device onto your computer. I use to transfer my home movies this way with my old video card.
 
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spookywillow said:
well how gutted am i?

i bought the HIS x1950pro 256mb and thought it had VIVO but it turns out it hasn't :mad: i'm pretty gutted to say the least after i just tried to hook up my skybox to my card :(

if i go crossfire do i have to get the EXACT same card or can i just get the HIS card that DOES have VIVO?

Sorry to hear of your troubles mate. Diamond's AGP X1950 Pro was listed as having VIVO for a while but it in fact turned out to be an error in the listed specifications. Now, the Diamond PCI-E X1950-Pro is also advertised as having VIVO, but I don't know if Diamond made the same mistake with this card. Although if you read the NewEgg user reviews, two people say it does have VIVO. I guess the only way to be reasonably sure would be to send an email to Diamond. Also spotted on NewEgg, Powercolor PCI-E also appears to have VIVO per listed specs. Haven't gotten in to Crossfire yet, so I can't help you with the second part of your question.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814103022
 
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honestjohn said:
They all have AVIVO, but VIVO is different. Just to clarify VIVO stands for Video-In/Video-Out which means you can hookup a DVD Player, VHS Player, Camcorder, etc. directly to Video Card using a cable such as a composite or S-Video and capture Video from the device onto your computer. I use to transfer my home movies this way with my old video card.

Yep, been using a PC as a digital recorder/media centre for quite a while now,

I thought AVIVO was just ATI's buzzword for VIVO (it actually standing for ATI Video In/Video Out). The connector between the DVI ports on the back of my x1950 is the same as on the back of my x850xt pe - and that one came with an external box. As far as I know, I can plug this external box in my x1950 and do video capture. Part of the AVIVO standard from ATI is that all the cards have the same features/connectors. Found the following on ATI's webby

Today and Tomorrow
ATI Avivo enhances video capture, processing and playback, ensuring end-to-end high-fidelity from the moment video signals enter your PC, all the way to the image displayed on your monitor. New ATI products incorporating ATI Avivo technology support HDTV and coming technologyies like HD disc formats. ATI Avivo is setting the new standard for the best visual performance available on a PC today and for the future.



Which suggests that it should work.

I'll try it when I get home tonight - I'll plug in my breakout box and see if I can capture from it and let you know...
 
Koosnaff said:
Yep, been using a PC as a digital recorder/media centre for quite a while now,

I thought AVIVO was just ATI's buzzword for VIVO (it actually standing for ATI Video In/Video Out). The connector between the DVI ports on the back of my x1950 is the same as on the back of my x850xt pe - and that one came with an external box. As far as I know, I can plug this external box in my x1950 and do video capture. Part of the AVIVO standard from ATI is that all the cards have the same features/connectors. Found the following on ATI's webby

Today and Tomorrow
ATI Avivo enhances video capture, processing and playback, ensuring end-to-end high-fidelity from the moment video signals enter your PC, all the way to the image displayed on your monitor. New ATI products incorporating ATI Avivo technology support HDTV and coming technologyies like HD disc formats. ATI Avivo is setting the new standard for the best visual performance available on a PC today and for the future.



Which suggests that it should work.

I'll try it when I get home tonight - I'll plug in my breakout box and see if I can capture from it and let you know...

Unfortunately they all look the same and you can't tell by just looking at the S-Video Connector. Also when you say you hooked up an external box, are you capturing video to an external device using Video-Out? Because if you are this is different. All cards can do Video-out, Video-in, that's the hard part. ATI really should have used another buzzword besides Avivo, because it's really confusing to everyone. Maybe that was there goal. Avivo really is not an acronym for anything. Read below which I lifted from an article on Avivo. It explains it better than I could......
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To further clarify, Avivo is more like a brand name that encompasses multiple technologies. There is no single product (at least not yet) that will do every process in the video path shown above. Instead, you will need multiple devices put together to give you that functionality, thus a fully Avivo enabled computer in your house will need to have a Theater Pro 550 card (for the capture and encode stage) and a R5xx based card with transcoding ability during the encoding stage as well as the last three stages of the video path, as mentioned earlier.
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So Avivo can do a number of fancy things with video but it still needs the Rage3D Theater Chip on-board for (Video-In) the direct capturing of video through the card itself to the PC. For example, my old X850 had a the Rage3D Theater chip integrated onto the PCB for VIVO and I could connect my Camcorder right to the card. So it looks like the X1950 Pro AGP users received the short end of the stick in this regard and most, if not all, of the AGP cards do not have VIVO or the Rage3D Theater Chip. Although, this IS a gamers card after all and not an "All in Wonder". As far as the PCI-E cards go, it looks like PowerColor and Diamond have VIVO. Luckily I no longer need this function since upgrading our Camcorder this year to a Sony that writes to DVD.

Edit: Just learned something else I wasn't aware of. I have had 3 versions of the X1950 Pro AGP (Visiontek/Sapphire/HIS) and I always wondered what happened to the ATI WDM Integrated Driver that was always there when I was using my X850XT-PE, Looked it up and apparently this is the ATI driver used for VIVO functionality. Makes sense now.

Also see first paragraph here....just found it

http://www.lostcircuits.com/video/sapphire_x1950pro/3.shtml

Please let me know how you do. They make some of the tech white papers pretty difficult to understand, so I will be the first to admit if I am wrong.
 
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