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You really are clutching at straws. The entire article is based on what Elon allegedly said to Bremmer. When asked if it's true, Elon said no, it is not. He doesn't need to explicitly state that the the claims aren't true and he didn't say that to Benner, it's already covered when he said it's not true. Further compounded when he says Bremmer isn't to be trusted.

How is Musk not denying that he told Bremmer he spoke to Putin "clutching at straws"? Musk's denial was that he spoke to Putin, not that he spoke to Bremmer and that he told Bremmer that. If you can't see that I can't help you. He could have simply said Bremmer is a lair and that is a denial. He's still not called Bremmer a liar. When someone says I said something I didn't, I call them a liar.
 
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Back on topic of Musk and Twitter, looks like we've got to wait two weeks, until the 28th, before we know whether or not they'll battle it out in court (https://www.reuters.com/markets/dea...tter-litigation-oct-28-deal-close-2022-10-06/).
My money is on it'll happen, given Twitter doesn't seem particularly keen on negotiating a lesser deal.

Was listening to Ken White's podcast earlier and he said if Musk doesn't get it done the judge is not going to look favourably on him. Judges don't like to be messed around.
 
He was voted on to the board, he agreed to join the board. He then later said he wasn't joining the board. You can argue semantics all night long, its your speciality.

Eh? That's what you're doing, I'm glad you're finally admitting the truth now, previously you argued that he was on the Twitter board and then kicked off when I pointed out those facts to you.

Pointing out factual information isn't "arguing semantics", that you can't seem to handle having even basic facts highlighted to you and you divert into all these weird copes/denials etc.. is on you.
 
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How is Musk not denying that he told Bremmer he spoke to Putin "clutching at straws"? Musk's denial was that he spoke to Putin, not that he spoke to Bremmer and that he told Bremmer that. If you can't see that I can't help you. He could have simply said Bremmer is a lair and that is a denial. He's still not called Bremmer a liar. When someone says I said something I didn't, I call them a liar.
"No, it is not." That's denial. He then said he hasn't spoken to Putin etc. You've turned it around to say he was only denying speaking to Putin, not that he denied that he spoke to Bremmer about speaking to Putin. He said no.

It's very clear that you and Elon don't communicate in the same way, so don't expect him say the exact words you would use.
 
You really are clutching at straws. The entire article is based on what Elon allegedly said to Bremmer. When asked if it's true, Elon said no, it is not. He doesn't need to explicitly state that the the claims aren't true and he didn't say that to Benner, it's already covered when he said it's not true. Further compounded when he says Bremmer isn't to be trusted.

Apparently, it's not a denial unless you say liar liar pants on fire to the other person too or something...

Somehow Elon literally saying "No, it's not" is bizarrely not interpreted as a denial because Colonel Kink has engaged some mind-reading skills and determined that that statement can only apply to vice magazine or that because Elon added some clarification in the next sentence re: when he spoke to Putin then maybe he's denying that he spoke to Putin but not that he'd told Bermmer that he spoke to Putin and maybe he... It's quite funny but now you've caught him out he'll just carry on with the excuses.
 
"No, it is not." That's denial. He then said he hasn't spoken to Putin etc. You've turned it around to say he was only denying speaking to Putin, not that he denied that he spoke to Bremmer about speaking to Putin. He said no.

It's very clear that you and Elon don't communicate in the same way, so don't expect him say the exact words you would use.

Elon says he never spoke to Putin (other than that time 18 months ago which was about cars etc) . He denies it by saying "I did not speak to Putin"

This we all agree on. Though we don't know it to be true. We all agree that he denied speaking with putin at any other time.

Doesn't then, Brenmer comenoit and say "hold on a minute, Elon told me only recently that he spoke with putin and discussed Putins red lines. Brenmer doesn't say that he has proof Elon spoke with putin, but only that Elon specifically told himself that he has just spoke with putin. Perhaps it was to brag. Perhaps it was true. Perhaps Elon just wants to sound more important than he is and pretends world leaders call him more often than they do, but none the less

Elon doesn't deny this.

Colonel questions why Elon doesn't flat out deny this or call Brenmer a lier.

Do users still say Elon has denied that he spoke with Brenmer, or they finally understand it now?

There's no big story here, other than a really simple point that Colonel was making, was why didn't Elon flat out deny that he spoke to Brenmer.

Elon denying that he has spoke to Putin, doesn't automatically mean that he also denies about speaking to Putin when he told Brenmer that he did, whether he was lying or not at the time, it's not been denied that he told brenmer.

Come on guys. You've got this now surely?





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Lol spot the hew favourite word. Kicked off lol. Poor dowie playing the victim at some event where it all kicked off.
 
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Turns out Elon under investigation by the Feds in relation to this too:

Twitter Inc.’s lawyers asked a Delaware court for access to correspondence between Elon Musk and federal authorities investigating him in connection with his attempt to take the social media company private.

“Elon Musk is presently under investigation by federal authorities for his conduct in connection with the acquisition of Twitter,” attorneys for Potter Anderson Corroon LLP wrote in a filing dated Oct. 6 and unsealed Thursday.
 
Richest man in the Worlds company "can't" [won't] fund Starlink anymore because it's cost them nearly $100 million

That's 0.046% of his supposed net worth.


And that is despite:
According to the SpaceX figures shared with the Pentagon, about 85% of the 20,000 terminals in Ukraine were paid – or partially paid – for by countries like the US and Poland or other entities. Those entities also paid for about 30% of the internet connectivity, which SpaceX says costs $4,500 each month per unit for the most advanced service. (Over the weekend, Musk tweeted there are around 25,000 terminals in Ukraine.)

What a great man...I'm sure it's not him being completely petty when they told him to **** off.
 
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Eh? That's what you're doing, I'm glad you're finally admitting the truth now, previously you argued that he was on the Twitter board and then kicked off when I pointed out those facts to you.

That is a lie. I never said he was kicked off. Do you see how it works? Someone said I said something which I didn't and I called them a liar. Musk could simply do the same.
 
That is a lie. I never said he was kicked off. Do you see how it works? Someone said I said something which I didn't and I called them a liar. Musk could simply do the same.

No, it isn't a lie; "kicked off" is a reference to you, not Elon's board position.

You don't need to call people names to deny something and claiming someone else's claim is a lie is a different claim to simply denying it, for a start it removes an obvious explanation of there being some confusion/miscommunication and just in general it's not necessary.
 
No, it isn't a lie; "kicked off" is a reference to you, not Elon's board position.

You don't need to call people names to deny something and claiming someone else's claim is a lie is a different claim to simply denying it, for a start it removes an obvious explanation of there being some confusion/miscommunication and just in general it's not necessary.

Oh well in that case it could easily apply to you dowie. You're the king of kicking off on here, the whole dowie hole is from you constantly kicking off to never admit you're wrong.

Tell me how it could be a simple miscommunication when Bremmer says "elon musk told me he had spoken with putin and the kremlin directly about ukraine. he also told me what the kremlin’s red lines were." That is a statement of fact. There is no confusion there. If Bremmer is lying that is slander. Why would Bremmer lie? He has a very good reputation, Musk has a reputation of being the internets biggest troll.
 
Oh well in that case it could easily apply to you dowie. You're the king of kicking off on here, the whole dowie hole is from you constantly kicking off to never admit you're wrong.

That's literally what you did with your board position claim, even when I post undeniable evidence you couldn't admit it.

Anyway, this is supposed to be a thread about Elon not me, as much as you'd love to make it about me - the question was:
Why isn't Musk calling him a liar or just flat out denying he said it.

Someone pointed out that he did in fact issue a denial and posted the tweet then all your squirming started where you throw in additional assumptions that the denial can only apply to some narrow claim or to the vice article.
 
Richest man in the Worlds company "can't" [won't] fund Starlink anymore because it's cost them nearly $100 million

That's 0.046% of his supposed net worth.


And that is despite:


What a great man...I'm sure it's not him being completely petty when they told him to **** off.
To be fair to Elon, as much as his motives are probably because he got called names etc, he isn't a charity and shouldn't have to indefinitely fund it, even if it's tiny amounts.

The thing I'd like to know, is the funding from USA, Poland etc, is that at cost to starlink or are they making a profit from it? Surely if 85 percent is paid for by others, then starlink can remove 15 percent and leave the other 85. Ukraine/anyone can't complain at that surely?


At this point, should the thread just been renamed to "The ongoing Elon Saga"? As everything seems to be getting discussed at the moment :cry:

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I'm fairly sure it would be incredibly easy to fund Starlink subscriptions going forward. Its pocket change to the governments throwing money to help Ukraine. Musk shouldn't be expected to fund but he does himself no favours with his stupid tweets on Ukraine and Russia.
 
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