The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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dowie said:
Damn, that's surprising and pretty "based" of him... if there actually was "cause".

On one hand, these sorts of golden parachute things did have a legit use, especially in the time of takeovers, corporate raiding etc.. in the 80s, the exec team ought to act more in line with shareholder interests and a golden parachute helps sweeten things, they know they're going to lose status but they will get their multimillion-dollar pay out if they accept rather than try to block/disrupt some deal which provides value to shareholders etc..

On the other hand these days, these types of deals aren't always popular with the general public, granted Elon is the controversial character here but if this were bank execs getting million dollar pay outs for not really achieveing much and then getting sacked there would be the usual story about the greedy fat cats etc..

What is hilarious is that he's now got access to all the e-mails and the company slack etc. so there is a chance he does have some cause:


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Well he'd need to have proof of the cause BEFORE he fired them...
You can't fire someone then find some proof at a later date, one of the reasons the likes of Twitter and most companies have those meetings/lessons he was mocking is to ensure that management know the law and how to do things that both comply with the law of whatever jurisdiction they're operating under (which in the US can vary massively by state), but also and this is always going to be key when dealing with employment cases, the companies own proceedures.
So it doesn't matter what the law says about firing someone (who hasn't broken the law*), if you don't follow the procedures that are laid down by the company and in the contracts.

And he almost certainly didn't, given he wouldn't have gotten access to those emails before he was in charge, and that it's a fairly blatant attempt to get out of paying what the contracts say in flagrant breach of multiple US laws, in a manner that is likely to be extremely open and closed, and he's done it against people that can afford good lawyers, and will likely have lawyers who would be willing to work based on contingency fees...(IE when they win they get Musk to pay their fees).

It seems to be a Trump style way of avoiding his legal obligations, and something that is quite in keeping with his disdain for the law and his employees rights in his other businesses.


*And even if they have broken the law there is usually a need to document how they broke it, you can't just say "you broke (an unspecified) law" and sack someone.
 
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Werewolf said:
Well he'd need to have proof of the cause BEFORE he fired them...

And he almost certainly didn't, given he wouldn't have gotten access to those emails before he was in charge, and that it's a fairly blatant attempt to get out of paying what the contracts say in flagrant breach of multiple US laws, in a manner that is likely to be extremely open and closed, and he's done it against people that can afford good lawyers, and will likely have lawyers who would be willing to work based on contingency fees...(IE when they win they get Musk to pay their fees).

It seems to be a Trump style way of avoiding his legal obligations, and something that is quite in keeping with his disdain for the law and his employees rights in his other businesses.
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Que people saying this is part of his 4d chess move, that he always wanted to pay them their exit fee, and the ensuring court case right before he's about to lose again he just pays it and then the same users saying how generous and genius Musk is.

He is showing all the signs of someone with too much money that knows he's messed up and now just having fun trying to troll everyone, while continuing to get himself into further problems. He's paid 44 billion for twitter, and wants to say a few hundred million but end up in court with 50 members.

So so daft. I didn't expect this sort of end result from being the world's richest man
 
He's certainly coming across as petty, vindictive, and not having a clue about what he's doing. There are only two reasons I can see to fire everyone who did exactly what their job and legal responsibilities required* by holding him to his contracted offer, just before they were due to get performance bonuses, and it's either that he's angry they held him to his deal, or he's trying to save a few dollars and doesn't realise the legal issues (and hiring**) issues he's letting himself in for.

It's almost like he's spent the last 10-20 years being told he's Tony Stark when in reality he's anything but.


*They made very sure their shareholders got the best deal possible, which is legally one of the prime requirements of their jobs.

**If you very publicly breach your employees contracts (especially the ones who would have had far better/harder to break ones), you are likely to find that it's much harder to hire anyone competent to replace them (as certain US politicians have found with their lawyers, when you get a rep for not paying your legal bills no competent lawyer will work for you without cash in advance every step of the way).
 
MadMossy said:
I very very very much doubt, he doesn't know what he is doing, he didn't become the richest person in the world by not knowing what he was doing.
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And there we have it, the master planner Elon, the guy who was forced to over pay for twitter, "knows what he is doing as he is the richest guy and this is all his plan".

He clearly doesn't know what he is doing with twitter. Other ventures sure, but twitter is currently beyond him. And how this will reflect on Tesla will be an interesting one to watch.
 
tang0 said:
Ah, Democrats spreading baseless assumptions that the nudist hippie is a Trump supporter, and yet again and the usual suspects on here spreading it.

Neighbors describe him as a left winger, is a BLM activist and into gay pride, the attacker was in his underwear on the scene, 911 call shows Paul Pelosi told police he was a friend, there are pictures of the intruder's home filled with left wing signs, police on the scene said they were both holding hammers, the attack didn't happen until the police arrived, there's pictures of the window debris on the outside of the house, there's a witnesses who say he was a gay prostitute, Pelosi is 3rd in line to the Presidancy so where was the security if it was an intruder. There's more evidence of him being a leftist homosexual having a drug fueled orgy like Hunter than him being some crazy MAGA guy.

Post the camera footage if you want to disprove it.
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Here you go you can read the DOJ document for yourself.

Spoiler warning!! You're insane theory is wrong again. You really aren't great at legal predictions are you.

 
Werewolf said:
Well he'd need to have proof of the cause BEFORE he fired them...
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And he almost certainly didn't, given he wouldn't have gotten access to those emails before he was in charge
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You don't know whether he had access to info that would give him cause or not. Also if someone is fired for X and then additional evidence comes out that means X was even more widespread than initially believed then that only helps the case.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Why would he delete it? He owns the company now, no one can censor him. If he believed in the tweet 2 hours ago he should stand by it now. What a coward.
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Just seen this lol. Wasn't dowie the one spreading that just the other day :D

And what a coward indeed. He's Really doing well to drag twitter into the gutter he is.

The owner of Twitter, tweets conspiracy junk from a conspiracy junk website, and then deletes it after the usual suspects have had time to spread it round on sites like this.
 
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tang0 said:
Ah, Democrats spreading baseless assumptions that the nudist hippie is a Trump supporter, and yet again and the usual suspects on here spreading it.

Neighbors describe him as a left winger, is a BLM activist and into gay pride, the attacker was in his underwear on the scene, 911 call shows Paul Pelosi told police he was a friend, there are pictures of the intruder's home filled with left wing signs, police on the scene said they were both holding hammers, the attack didn't happen until the police arrived, there's pictures of the window debris on the outside of the house, there's a witnesses who say he was a gay prostitute, Pelosi is 3rd in line to the Presidancy so where was the security if it was an intruder. There's more evidence of him being a leftist homosexual having a drug fueled orgy like Hunter than him being some crazy MAGA guy.

Post the camera footage if you want to disprove it.
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You are a fool

www.bbc.co.uk

Nancy Pelosi: Man charged with attempted kidnap and assault

The suspect is also charged assault and attempted murder of the top Democrat's husband in their home.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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unwashed potato! said:
Just seen this lol. Wasn't dowie the one spreading that just the other day :D

And what a coward indeed. He's Really doing well to drag twitter into the gutter he is.

The owner of Twitter, tweets conspiracy junk from a conspiracy junk website, and then deletes it after the usual suspects have had time to spread it round on sites like this.
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Yeah they were creaming in their pants on the The Donald. Doesn't matter what comes out now as the lie has been told so many times now its the truth.

Donald Jnr tweeted this out along with lots of others on the right.

 
Seeing Elon is rushing the employees to get the blue tick changes out be an artificial date. That's a sure fire way to ensure its safe, secure, and not open to possible hacks or issues. Don't rest just rush.
 
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unwashed potato! said:
And there we have it, the master planner Elon, the guy who was forced to over pay for twitter, "knows what he is doing as he is the richest guy and this is all his plan".

He clearly doesn't know what he is doing with twitter. Other ventures sure, but twitter is currently beyond him. And how this will reflect on Tesla will be an interesting one to watch.
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He's owned it for half a week. Calm down.
 
tang0 said:
Ah, Democrats spreading baseless assumptions that the nudist hippie is a Trump supporter, and yet again and the usual suspects on here spreading it.

Neighbors describe him as a left winger, is a BLM activist and into gay pride, the attacker was in his underwear on the scene, 911 call shows Paul Pelosi told police he was a friend, there are pictures of the intruder's home filled with left wing signs, police on the scene said they were both holding hammers, the attack didn't happen until the police arrived, there's pictures of the window debris on the outside of the house, there's a witnesses who say he was a gay prostitute, Pelosi is 3rd in line to the Presidancy so where was the security if it was an intruder. There's more evidence of him being a leftist homosexual having a drug fueled orgy like Hunter than him being some crazy MAGA guy.

Post the camera footage if you want to disprove it.
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As expected this turned out to be complete drivel.
 
some of its leveraged off of the tesla share holders ... and Musk's making promises there

www.reuters.com

Exclusive: Tesla faces U.S. criminal probe over self-driving claims

The U.S. Department of Justice launched the probe last year following more than a dozen crashes, some fatal, involving Tesla’s driver assistance system Autopilot, people familiar with the matter say.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
Oct 25 - Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) is under criminal investigation in the United States over claims that the company's electric vehicles can drive themselves, three people familiar with the matter said
"The car will be able to take you from your home to your work, your friend's house, the grocery store without you touching the wheel," he said.

you've got to dream ... but facts/accidents speak for themselves.
 
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