Working hard won't fix twitter's fundamental problem of being something governments will only ever wish to impose restrictions on which make it difficult to monetise. There's a pretty obvious reason why WeChat exists in the format it does and it is absolutely not to engender communication.
The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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I agree western companies abusing lax labour laws in other countries so that it's owners can make billions is something that should be stopped
for instance
Elon Musk praises Chinese workers for ‘burning the 3am oil’ – here’s what that really looks like
Tesla’s massive Shanghai ‘Giga-factory’ pushes its workers to the limit to meet production targets amid an ongoing pandemic lockdown
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I agree western companies abusing lax labour laws in other countries so that it's owners can make billions is something that should be stopped
for instance
Elon Musk praises Chinese workers for ‘burning the 3am oil’ – here’s what that really looks like
Tesla’s massive Shanghai ‘Giga-factory’ pushes its workers to the limit to meet production targets amid an ongoing pandemic lockdown
Yeah I'm sure people working at Tesla's Giga Factory making EV's are really the type of workers that are really suffering in China.
Inside Gigafactory Shanghai - a Guided Tour of Tesla's most productive Factory
In this video I'd like to take you on a unique tour inside GIGAFACTORY SHAGHAI which is currently Tesla's most productive and most profitable factory and its...
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I haven't watched the whole video but I can tell you now that is not a bad place to work, I'm sure you've done extensive research though having Googled for some Guardian article writing that billionaire man is bad.
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yea will be the ones in the apple factory we should feel sorry for
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You are assuming Elon would actually give a **** and remember them for putting in the graft and not just sack them if it made the books look healthier. People like him don't get rich by being nice, they get rich by being ruthless *****. He's already bought some staff back when he relaised they needed to know what was in their heads but once they gained that knowledge he sacked them again.
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Elon or Gates putting in the hours when they are looking to make billions for themselves is slightly different to expecting staff to do the same when as far as we know they aren't being promised bonuses let alone say stock options for turning the company around. The boss should be putting in more work then anyone else when he has just loaded the company with $1b in interest payments a year.
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Erm the Hunter Biden stuff that was removed was against Twitters own terms and conditions as it was nude images posted without the users consent (something that is actually illegal in an increasing number of jurisdictions including US states).
It's odd that you mention that given that some of Elon's actions remind me a lot of the reason the FEC and FTC in the US came into being and the circumstances behind them, he's managed to far to stay just far enough inside the laws that ensured that he's only had to have his communications approved by lawyers before posting on twitter after his posts about Tesla were deemed to be borderline stock manipulation (something he seems to have decided at various times didn't apply to him with an attitude of "well i've sent the message for approval and haven't heard anything back so it's ok").
So you do it again, now it's ok for Chinese workers in a nice (comparative) factory to be abused because some other Chinese workers are abused more.....have you really thought through your position on these things or is you sole motivation to say there are worse people in the world than Musk? For the record I'm pretty ambivalent about the man and would be happy to see Twitter go bust tomorrow no matter who owns it, but I can see he's not necessarily a very nice person because that is what any rational person would conclude!Yeah I'm sure people working at Tesla's Giga Factory making EV's are really the type of workers that are really suffering in China.
Inside Gigafactory Shanghai - a Guided Tour of Tesla's most productive Factory
In this video I'd like to take you on a unique tour inside GIGAFACTORY SHAGHAI which is currently Tesla's most productive and most profitable factory and its...
I haven't watched the whole video but I can tell you now that is not a bad place to work, I'm sure you've done extensive research though having Googled for some Guardian article writing that billionaire man is bad.
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No one is being abused at that factory mate, they have pretty good jobs. I have no doubt they've worked long hours to meet some deadlines, I doubt they were told they couldn't leave and I'm sure they were paid for their hard work. This happens in a lot industries; video games being a notable and relevant one.
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Twitter was a public company at that point and Dorey and the board had a duty to the shareholders not to do anything that could hurt the share price. Now its private Elon has no such duty and can do with it as he pleases.
Good luck keeping politics out of anything in the US. It is in every part of their society, even down to school boards, zoning and dog catcher
Yet they refused to remove multiple videos containing child abuse for weeks until a complaint was raised with homeland security....
Thankfully Elon's a lot less tolerant of that kind of content and was one of the first things he changed.
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They are reportedly required to work 12 hour shifts which are illegal in loads of countries including China and spent months locked in the factory recently due to COVID rules but you just go on living in the fantasy world where Tesla are the only company not abusing Chinese workers or hand wave it away as 'others are much worse' as I've said I have no particular axe to grind with Musk but how you can be so blind is beyond me.
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Who are all these nutters that would be happy for a billionaire to take over the company they work for, sack half their colleagues and then be expected to work twice the hours for the same money?
I'm pretty sure that if this happened to you, nobody defending this would see that as a "fantastic opportunity"
So what if Twitters workforce got themselves cushy, well paid jobs? I imagine if people worked as hard as they think in their own heads, this forum would be very dead during working hours...
Work to live, not live to work.
I'm pretty sure that if this happened to you, nobody defending this would see that as a "fantastic opportunity"
So what if Twitters workforce got themselves cushy, well paid jobs? I imagine if people worked as hard as they think in their own heads, this forum would be very dead during working hours...
Work to live, not live to work.
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Yes, if you ignore the work that went into removing these things, and consider it as an action that took 3 seconds from start to finish, yes Elon can take the credit for that.
When x government says they will build 50 new hospitals, and they get to it, it takes 5.2 years to build, however, after the 5th year they are booted and another government elected.
Do you also then say, look how amazing this new government it, the last in 5 years built no new hospitals, yet the new one built 50 in just 2 months.
Or do you only think like that when it suits you to support someone you like?
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Simps. Simps is what we call them. No need to name users, we know who they are.
The funny thing is, these users actually do agree with us, it's just because it's Musk doing it that they feel this blind need to defend it.
I bet a lot of us work at companies that could sack a lot of people to no detriment lol
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Yup, seeing people call fired Twitter employees pointless and dossers whilst they themselves post on a computer forum presumably during work hours is pretty amusing.
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