The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

[Colonel_Klinck]

Given the amount of work at SpaceX Elon has done and the amount of knowledge he has on all aspects of that company it's a stupid post, there's *many* sources to back that up as I already shared. Or you can just watch him speaking about rockets/SpaceX on Youtube for countless hours.

Knowing the general workings of his rockets considering he has worked there since it began is hardly surprising. He isn't designing the Raptor engines though, he didn't design the Merlin engines and he isn't writing the code that allows them to land. So talking the Tim Dodd for an hour is the least he should be able to do. That is such laymen stuff though, it seems complicated and in depth to us but we aren't rocket scientists. The idea he is SpaceX chief engineer in anything but name is laughable.

 

[Roar87]

Knowing the general workings of his rockets considering he has worked there since it began is hardly surprising. He isn't designing the Raptor engines though, he didn't design the Merlin engines and he isn't writing the code that allows them to land. So talking the Tim Dodd for an hour is the least he should be able to do. That is such laymen stuff though, it seems complicated and in depth to us but we aren't rocket scientists. The idea he is SpaceX chief engineer in anything but name is laughable.

He's Chief Engineer, he has hundreds of people working for him, but he understands how everything fits together and chooses which designs to go with and literally does actual engineering work. It doesn't mean he does everything, or understands everything better than the specialist engineers who might design the engines or the electronics, but he is still the Chief Engineer and does *actual* engineering. I don't see why you have this need to denigrate someone's work when literally no one who works with him or knows him backs up your arbitrary claims.

 

[unwashed potato!]

A lot of people don't want their real identity linked to their Twitter profile, Facebook will insist on that which is why it won't be popular. I don't like making comments on Facebook posts because it highlights anything I post to my friends, everyone sees my real identity, I don't want some random I went to school with seeing something I said on a video game related post - let alone anything Political or controversial.

Yes, that's why Instagram has totally failed, and WhatsApp too!

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

TBH part of the reason social media is as toxic as it is is that people think they can hide behind anonymity and hence post stuff they would never say in the real world

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

He's Chief Engineer, he has hundreds of people working for him, but he understands how everything fits together and chooses which designs to go with and literally does actual engineering work. It doesn't mean he does everything, or understands everything better than the specialist engineers who might design the engines or the electronics, but he is still the Chief Engineer and does *actual* engineering. I don't see why you have this need to denigrate someone's work when literally no one who works with him or knows him backs up your arbitrary claims.

Its a title he gave himself and that is all it is. He is not in any way shape of form the chief engineer at SpaceX. He doesn't design anything, the idea he with ZERO engineering education could design a rocket is laughable. Its like saying you could design a skyscraper by starting a building company having never studied architecture or engineering. Yeah you could draw the outline and even say how many floors it has but that isn't designing a skyscraper and a skyscraper is child's play compared to a rocket or at least a rocket that doesn't explode on the pad.

 

[D.P.]

TBH part of the reason social media is as toxic as it is is that people think they can hide behind anonymity and hence post stuff they would never say in the real world

This is becauxe people like Roar are toxic and don't want their friends to see how unpleasant they really are.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

This is becauxe people like Roar are toxic and don't want their friends to see how unpleasant they really are.

My Twitter account has my real name in it and I'm happy to stand by anything I post on it. My FB account is also my real name, not that i post on there anymore

 

[Roar87]

My Twitter account has my real name in it and I'm happy to stand by anything I post on it. My FB account is also my real name, not that i post on there anymore

Great. Pick a bunch of accounts at random and tell me how many real names you find

I did this and surprisingly more than I expected, but also a lot of anonymous accounts or accounts with first names only

 

[StriderX]

He's Chief Engineer, he has hundreds of people working for him, but he understands how everything fits together and chooses which designs to go with and literally does actual engineering work. It doesn't mean he does everything, or understands everything better than the specialist engineers who might design the engines or the electronics, but he is still the Chief Engineer and does *actual* engineering. I don't see why you have this need to denigrate someone's work when literally no one who works with him or knows him backs up your arbitrary claims.

With what degree does he have this proficiency?

 

[Roar87]

With what degree does he have this proficiency?

He has a physics degree, but apparently he just spent a lot of time studying rockets over the course of about 4 years. That's why he can talk in detail about rockets without having a degree.

Former SpaceX Exec Explains How Elon Musk Taught Himself Rocket Science

Jim Cantrell helped Musk launch SpaceX and was blown away by Musk's intelligence and determination.

www.businessinsider.com

You can actually Google and learn this

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

He has a physics degree, but apparently he just spent a lot of time studying rockets over the course of about 4 years. That's why he can talk in detail about rockets without having a degree.

Former SpaceX Exec Explains How Elon Musk Taught Himself Rocket Science

Jim Cantrell helped Musk launch SpaceX and was blown away by Musk's intelligence and determination.

www.businessinsider.com

You can actually Google and learn this

Reading some books on rockets does not make you a rocket engineer and certainly not the chief engineer. You really can't be this gullible.

 

[Roar87]

Reading some books on rockets does not make you a rocket engineer and certainly not the chief engineer. You really can't be this gullible.

There's dozens of people involved in the industry saying he is lmao. Evidence that he isn't or stop posting.

 

[unwashed potato!]

Evidence that he isn't or stop posting.

Lol

And its back to 2022 roar. What a hard man. If roar didn't moan so much to the mods about his hurt feelings and as a result, get them to tell me to stop, I'd be calling him some famous tiger, but I can't as roar, the free speech guy, wants it to be silenced. But this post is a perfect example of him being that hard tiger.

I mean who even talks like that. "disprove my ridiculous claim or stop posting"

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

He's Chief Engineer, he has hundreds of people working for him, but he understands how everything fits together and chooses which designs to go with and literally does actual engineering work. It doesn't mean he does everything, or understands everything better than the specialist engineers who might design the engines or the electronics, but he is still the Chief Engineer and does *actual* engineering. I don't see why you have this need to denigrate someone's work when literally no one who works with him or knows him backs up your arbitrary claims.

From my experience with Chief Engineers, here are a few of the tasks they perform:

They are involved in the intial concepting of a system/product. This involves determine key aspects and specifications for the final product.

They may participate in reviewing key systems or components during the design phase.

Certain technical decisions may escalate up the chain for them to make. Do we do this, with xyz trade off, or do this other thing instead with abc trade off.

They are involved in final design review and sign off. This is a meeting that goes over all the technical details of the part/system and serves as a final check to ensure the engineering has been done properly. Some of the items that are reviewed in this meeting are, the technical drawings and CAD, technical simulations (such as: FEA, thermodynamics, casting simulations), bolted joint reports, clearance reports etc..

Things differ from company to company and may include more or less tasks, but this should give people an overview of the role a chief engineer performers.


As for the conversation at hand, credit should be given where credit is due. Elon is definitely knowledgable on the technical aspects of the rockets at SpaceX.
From what I have seen in the interviews where Elon talks about SpaceX engines, he is almost certainly involved with the design process and not just a I will see you at the other side kind of manager.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

There's dozens of people involved in the industry saying he is lmao. Evidence that he isn't or stop posting.

LOL you want me to produce evidence that someone with NO education in engineering let alone rocket engineering is the chief engineer at a rocket company? You'll be telling me he's the chief engineer at Tesla and The Boring Company and Hyperloop and Splar City and Neuralink next

How he gets all this engineering done while spending half the day on Twitter is amazing. That and lacking even just a bachelors degree let alone a masters in any form of engineering.

Now I've got these amazing magic beans....

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

From my experience with Chief Engineers, here are a few of the tasks they perform:

They are involved in the intial concepting of a system/product. This involves determine key aspects and specifications for the final product.

They may participate in reviewing key systems or components during the design phase.

Certain technical decisions may escalate up the chain for them to make. Do we do this, with xyz trade off, or do this other thing instead with abc trade off.

They are involved in final design review and sign off. This is a meeting that goes over all the technical details of the part/system and serves as a final check to ensure the engineering has been done properly. Some of the items that are reviewed in this meeting are, the technical drawings and CAD, technical simulations (such as: FEA, thermodynamics, casting simulations), bolted joint reports, clearance reports etc..

Things differ from company to company and may include more or less tasks, but this should give people an overview of the role a chief engineer performers.


As for the conversation at hand, credit should be given where credit is due. Elon is definitely knowledgable on the technical aspects of the rockets at SpaceX.
From what I have seen in the interviews where Elon talks about SpaceX engines, he is almost certainly involved with the design process and not just a I will see you at the other side kind of manager.

Now I could believe he will sit in a room, all of the actual engineers will give him the options and the pluses and minuses of the ideas and he will make the decision on what to try as he is the guy paying for it all. What I don't believe is he is coming up with the designs for these rockets, how they will actually function and getting past the HUGE engineering challenges they face.

 

[StriderX]

It's not hard to appear more knowledgeable than one really is... after all most exams are essentially just tests of memory rather than genuine knowledge.

That's before we account for the possibility that he's not just being given the information direct through some form of deception such as an earbud.

 

[Roar87]

Elon Musk is an Engineer

Joe Rogan Interviewing Elon MuskSupport the original creators of the video by watching the full video with the link belowFull video: https://www.youtube.com/...

youtu.be

He says he does engineering, people who know him say he's the Chief Engineer, no one in the industry has called him a fraud or claimed he doesn't do what he says he does. This isn't even contentious.

 

[tang0]

He's Chief Engineer, he has hundreds of people working for him, but he understands how everything fits together and chooses which designs to go with and literally does actual engineering work. It doesn't mean he does everything, or understands everything better than the specialist engineers who might design the engines or the electronics, but he is still the Chief Engineer and does *actual* engineering. I don't see why you have this need to denigrate someone's work when literally no one who works with him or knows him backs up your arbitrary claims.

Those aligned with the loony left are finding anything to denigrate him because he's been exposing all the lies they've gone along with

 

[unwashed potato!]

Those aligned with the loony left are finding anything to denigrate him because he's been exposing all the lies they've gone along with

Imagine to write a post, and have tango quote you and agree with it. Says it all that Roars posts are being quoted by this guy